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Abdominal pain under rib cage left side...Feels like A Charlie Horse

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  • Posted By: BarbaraBarbara
  • November 30, 2007
  • 02:28 PM

Hello, New to this forum and glad to meet you all.

I am a 38 year old Smoking Housewife with no medical insurance, about 180 pounds....have gained about 30 pounds since starting work on the computer 3 years ago, and dont get alot of physical exercise, so I am in an upright posistion alot of days and of course bending forward with not so great posture.

Other than generalized getting older and general aches and pains Im healthy.

I have had SEVERE bouts of pain on my left side, just beneath my rib cage in the stomach area, for about 7 years.

The pain isn't always present, it comes and goes but I never have it when im standing or laying down (only when Im sitting) , It can be brought on sometimes by coughing or even twisting/bending my body to the left ,right or foreward, doing sit ups, getting out of bed or for no apparent reason at all, but not every time, and I cant reproduce the pain for the doctor.

Severity of the pain...UNBELIEVABLE !!! On a scale of 1-10 it is always a 8-9 during the episode.
It almost feels like a charlie horse in my stomach, or severe labor pains but ALWAYS in the same spot ..I can put my finger on it every time..It's the same exact spot.
No chance that Im pregnant Ive had a tubal 15 years ago, and as mentioned this has been ongoing for about 7 years.
The muscles in my stomach area completely contract and I cant hardley breath in or out untill it passes.
It lasts about 30 seconds and then stops leaving a sore,bruised feeling for an hour or so in that area.

I can apply pressure with my hand to the spot and be very still or lay down as I feel the muscles begin to contract and that will usually delay or stop the full blown spasm for awhile or a day.
There's no bruising, I cant feel any lumps, it used to only happen about once a month ( sometimes It wouldnt happen for 3-6 months) but recently it has been more frequent happening 1-2 times per week.

It doesnt cause fever, and im not dibilitated except when im having the pain.
I am constipated and gassey quite often ( I think I should be going more than I do),I get indigestion often but hardley ever have diarhea.
These dont feel like gas pains, they are extremely more severe than that.
I dont loose my appetite,I dont take laxitives because I hate the stomach ache produced by them.

The only meds I take are Advil or aleve for pain ,claritin for allergies and Nyquil when I have a cold.

I also occasionally get a burning achey feeling in my back, towards the top between my shoulder blades, it's a radiating ache no more severe on one side than the other, but occasionally radiates up the right side of my neck ... usually brought on during colder weather or times when im stressed or smoking more than usuall , I thought it comes from my lungs and was a URI but my general physician always says my lungs sound fine, so maybe it is coming from muscles ?
I might add, taking Nyquil seems to help the pain between my shoulder blades.

I have brought these pains to the attention of my general physician for years and she looks at me as though she's puzzled so I stopped even bringing it up to her because she makes me feel stupid, I am not a hypochondriac .

7 Years ago she put me on anti-depressants after my 5 - 6 th complaint about these pains , I assumed she was thinking that I was too stressed and freaking myself out , I stopped taking them after the first 6 months or year because the pains didnt stop and I didnt feel depressed even in the begining .
I dont take pain pills so I turned those down when they were offered and told her I dont want a band-aid , I want to know whats wrong.

She says it could be alot of things (possibly more than one thing) and I should have an MRI done but I cant afford that.


Any ideas?

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  • We all can't be crazy! Gees. It is so painful and we all have the same symptoms - exactly! I have had these spasms during meetings before and I act like I need to stand to stretch but I'm sure they wonder why I am shoving my hand in under my ribs. I wonder what we all have in common? If it is the diaphram spasming, then what can be done to prevent it and what causes it to spasm? I hope we all get answers soon.
    lorajean 4 Replies
    • December 2, 2009
    • 10:37 PM
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  • I have had these for years. They are called side stitches. There is plenty of reference on dealing with them online, as well as some good home remedies. Next time you get one here are a couple things you can try. Many side stitches are caused by gas bubbles that irritate the diaphragm. For the ones that are caused by gas, there is an exercise that can break up the gas bubble and ease the pain. Clench your stomach muscles very tightly and then expel all the air from your lungs. Do this several times. If you are fairly flexible, you might try lying on your back and bringing your knees up to your head. In addition to the gas bubbles, side stitches can be caused by weak stomach muscles and lack of oxygen/blood to the diaphragm. If the latter is the case, try breathing deeper. Side stitches are a common condition, and if all you guys' doctors don't know anything about them I would seriously consider changing doctors.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 4, 2009
    • 03:11 PM
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  • With all due respect, even though I am from Maine,we do have some pretty darn good doctors here. I have had side twitches and this is not what I have now. I can handle those twitches because the pain is not anywheres near a 10 on a the pain scale but just a minor discomfort. I like my doctor thank you very much and will stick with him. I value your imput and maybe this thread you have left may help some of us but for me and a few others it is much more painful than just a stitch. Mine is not an air bubble, but is actually a charley horse of sorts and is as hard as a rock....literally. If anything, I am thinking it may be petrified feces stuck which sounds as silly as an air bubble. sorry, but this is just my opinion since I used to run and be very active and have had those "stitches" which to me is nothing more than a mere side cramp..
    lorajean 4 Replies
    • December 4, 2009
    • 11:54 PM
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  • My husband had the same thing for many years. No Dr. could figure it out. Finally after doing his own research he figured it was due to low magnesium. He tried different types at first, then the pharmacist recommended Mag Ox 400. He has been pain free from that moment on unless he forgets to take his daily dose. Hopes this helps
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 5, 2009
    • 08:45 PM
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  • Magnesium.......hmmmm, this is the first I have heard of this. I know when I was in the hospital they did a pile of tests and bloodwork as well, my levels have always been normal in the past with regular checkups but am curious now if they checked that level or not. I'm thinking they probably did....hmmmm. Interesting. As of now I juice twice a day and eat regular meal and lightly snack during the day with plenty of water and errrrrrrrr, I admit coffee, black no sugar. :-). I will do some research on this magnesium and have a physical due in a couple of weeks so I will be sure they take a magnesioum level and let ya know. thanks from a very stormy Maine.
    lorajean 4 Replies
    • December 6, 2009
    • 03:29 AM
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  • Magnesium.......hmmmm, this is the first I have heard of this. I know when I was in the hospital they did a pile of tests and bloodwork as well, my levels have always been normal in the past with regular checkups but am curious now if they checked that level or not. I'm thinking they probably did....hmmmm. Interesting. As of now I juice twice a day and eat regular meal and lightly snack during the day with plenty of water and errrrrrrrr, I admit coffee, black no sugar. :-). I will do some research on this magnesium and have a physical due in a couple of weeks so I will be sure they take a magnesioum level and let ya know. thanks from a very stormy Maine.yes, i would have to agree that side stitches are a walk in the park compared to this! NOT side stitches....only if they were. I eat a pretty good diet and all my past test have came back normal, but maybe magnesium is the answer. I'll check into that too. Good luck with your quest to cure.....still hoping to find a Doctor that is dealing with the same thing!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 6, 2009
    • 09:56 AM
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  • Hi Barbara - I have suffered from a similar condition since childhood. The pain is horrible. Doctors and friends, for years, have made me feel as I was crazy. I have been diagnosed with a hammertoma. This is a congenital disorder where my entire left inner thigh is actually a tumor. The reason I am responding to you is because this is a congenital disorder and my mother has the exact same symptoms as you. I am 34 and she is 55. Consult with a bone and tissue tumor specialist and invest in an MRI. Trust me I've gone to dozens of specialists over the years. Google Bone and Tissue Tumor Specialists, San Diego. The most amazing doctor is there. He spent 2 hours explaining the reasons for my pain and why it came and went. Hope you feel better and try not lifting heavy items on that side and lose some weight - it helps the condition. Hello, New to this forum and glad to meet you all.I am a 38 year old Smoking Housewife with no medical insurance, about 180 pounds....have gained about 30 pounds since starting work on the computer 3 years ago, and dont get alot of physical exercise, so I am in an upright posistion alot of days and of course bending forward with not so great posture.Other than generalized getting older and general aches and pains Im healthy.I have had SEVERE bouts of pain on my left side, just beneath my rib cage in the stomach area, for about 7 years.The pain isn't always present, it comes and goes but I never have it when im standing or laying down (only when Im sitting) , It can be brought on sometimes by coughing or even twisting/bending my body to the left ,right or foreward, doing sit ups, getting out of bed or for no apparent reason at all, but not every time, and I cant reproduce the pain for the doctor.Severity of the pain...UNBELIEVABLE !!! On a scale of 1-10 it is always a 8-9 during the episode.It almost feels like a charlie horse in my stomach, or severe labor pains but ALWAYS in the same spot ..I can put my finger on it every time..It's the same exact spot.No chance that Im pregnant Ive had a tubal 15 years ago, and as mentioned this has been ongoing for about 7 years.The muscles in my stomach area completely contract and I cant hardley breath in or out untill it passes.It lasts about 30 seconds and then stops leaving a sore,bruised feeling for an hour or so in that area.I can apply pressure with my hand to the spot and be very still or lay down as I feel the muscles begin to contract and that will usually delay or stop the full blown spasm for awhile or a day.There's no bruising, I cant feel any lumps, it used to only happen about once a month ( sometimes It wouldnt happen for 3-6 months) but recently it has been more frequent happening 1-2 times per week.It doesnt cause fever, and im not dibilitated except when im having the pain.I am constipated and gassey quite often ( I think I should be going more than I do),I get indigestion often but hardley ever have diarhea.These dont feel like gas pains, they are extremely more severe than that.I dont loose my appetite,I dont take laxitives because I hate the stomach ache produced by them.The only meds I take are Advil or aleve for pain ,claritin for allergies and Nyquil when I have a cold.I also occasionally get a burning achey feeling in my back, towards the top between my shoulder blades, it's a radiating ache no more severe on one side than the other, but occasionally radiates up the right side of my neck ... usually brought on during colder weather or times when im stressed or smoking more than usuall , I thought it comes from my lungs and was a URI but my general physician always says my lungs sound fine, so maybe it is coming from muscles ?I might add, taking Nyquil seems to help the pain between my shoulder blades.I have brought these pains to the attention of my general physician for years and she looks at me as though she's puzzled so I stopped even bringing it up to her because she makes me feel stupid, I am not a hypochondriac .7 Years ago she put me on anti-depressants after my 5 - 6 th complaint about these pains , I assumed she was thinking that I was too stressed and freaking myself out , I stopped taking them after the first 6 months or year because the pains didnt stop and I didnt feel depressed even in the begining .I dont take pain pills so I turned those down when they were offered and told her I dont want a band-aid , I want to know whats wrong.She says it could be alot of things (possibly more than one thing) and I should have an MRI done but I cant afford that.Any ideas?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 7, 2009
    • 05:48 AM
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  • Hi. I also have experienced this sharp intense pain just below the very last left rib. When it happens, I'd feel faint from the pain. My goodness. It may last for about 10mins. I haven't had any tests done. But will be talking to my dr about it on Wednesday. I am female, 29. I started experiencing this since 2001. It only comes by once in a blue moon. It's in the same area where I feel cramp from running, also on the left. So I am thinking and also hoping that it's only muscle related problems.i am having the same problem when i bend to reach for something and it feels like something is popping out from under my rib cage and is very hard...after contemplating calling 911 it goes away after about 2 minutes of severe pain...???
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 4, 2010
    • 10:24 PM
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  • i am having the same problem when i bend to reach for something and it feels like something is popping out from under my rib cage and is very hard...after contemplating calling 911 it goes away after about 2 minutes of severe pain...???Hi all,I had this pain for 10 years( yes exactly the same kind of pain which initially started with tightness in the left rib cage). After 10 years of misdiagnosis, I was diagnosed with b12 deficiency after a blood serum test. I could never think that a vitamin or nutritional deficiency can be so horrifying.Please get yourself tested for B12 deficiency.for more info on this subject, go to this thread and read.http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?t=62327and post your questions on http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/sho...9948&page=1168ThanksArya
    b12_UnDiagnosed 110 Replies
    • January 5, 2010
    • 05:11 PM
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  • I am a 38 year old house wife, i have a lot of spinal problems, such a spondylosis degenerated disc disease, other than that i am healthy, at least I think I am. I get the same pains but mine come and go and have been since 2006. I have noticed lately that the longer i am on my feet or seem stressed the sharper it is. there for a while I could feel it like spasm but it no longer does that. anyway i hope some one has some good advice, every time i go to the hospital or doc with my spine cond,or the pain in my side, i have had a doc at te emergency room tell me he cant help he isnt a doc that is able to do surgery, i tried explaining the knot he kept feeling for is not a knot where you can rub across my side and feel , its more inside. i dont know its hard to explain and comes and goes! pppleeeaasseeee some one if you have a idea besides something i just cant afford.... mri....
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 23, 2010
    • 04:28 PM
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  • i have that same thing feels muscular back pain to im 14 active anyone have any ideas
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  • Hello, New to this forum and glad to meet you all.I am a 38 year old Smoking Housewife with no medical insurance, about 180 pounds....have gained about 30 pounds since starting work on the computer 3 years ago, and dont get alot of physical exercise, so I am in an upright posistion alot of days and of course bending forward with not so great posture.Other than generalized getting older and general aches and pains Im healthy.I have had SEVERE bouts of pain on my left side, just beneath my rib cage in the stomach area, for about 7 years.The pain isn't always present, it comes and goes but I never have it when im standing or laying down (only when Im sitting) , It can be brought on sometimes by coughing or even twisting/bending my body to the left ,right or foreward, doing sit ups, getting out of bed or for no apparent reason at all, but not every time, and I cant reproduce the pain for the doctor.Severity of the pain...UNBELIEVABLE !!! On a scale of 1-10 it is always a 8-9 during the episode.It almost feels like a charlie horse in my stomach, or severe labor pains but ALWAYS in the same spot ..I can put my finger on it every time..It's the same exact spot.No chance that Im pregnant Ive had a tubal 15 years ago, and as mentioned this has been ongoing for about 7 years.The muscles in my stomach area completely contract and I cant hardley breath in or out untill it passes.It lasts about 30 seconds and then stops leaving a sore,bruised feeling for an hour or so in that area.I can apply pressure with my hand to the spot and be very still or lay down as I feel the muscles begin to contract and that will usually delay or stop the full blown spasm for awhile or a day.There's no bruising, I cant feel any lumps, it used to only happen about once a month ( sometimes It wouldnt happen for 3-6 months) but recently it has been more frequent happening 1-2 times per week.It doesnt cause fever, and im not dibilitated except when im having the pain.I am constipated and gassey quite often ( I think I should be going more than I do),I get indigestion often but hardley ever have diarhea.These dont feel like gas pains, they are extremely more severe than that.I dont loose my appetite,I dont take laxitives because I hate the stomach ache produced by them.The only meds I take are Advil or aleve for pain ,claritin for allergies and Nyquil when I have a cold.I also occasionally get a burning achey feeling in my back, towards the top between my shoulder blades, it's a radiating ache no more severe on one side than the other, but occasionally radiates up the right side of my neck ... usually brought on during colder weather or times when im stressed or smoking more than usuall , I thought it comes from my lungs and was a URI but my general physician always says my lungs sound fine, so maybe it is coming from muscles ?I might add, taking Nyquil seems to help the pain between my shoulder blades.I have brought these pains to the attention of my general physician for years and she looks at me as though she's puzzled so I stopped even bringing it up to her because she makes me feel stupid, I am not a hypochondriac .7 Years ago she put me on anti-depressants after my 5 - 6 th complaint about these pains , I assumed she was thinking that I was too stressed and freaking myself out , I stopped taking them after the first 6 months or year because the pains didnt stop and I didnt feel depressed even in the begining .I dont take pain pills so I turned those down when they were offered and told her I dont want a band-aid , I want to know whats wrong.She says it could be alot of things (possibly more than one thing) and I should have an MRI done but I cant afford that.Any ideas?i had pains exsactly like that and then the pain got very very bad,, and i ended up in hospital and i found out i had pancreatitis
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 15, 2010
    • 11:36 AM
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  • I am from the Philippines and the reason I arrived at this discussion thread is because I have been surfing the net looking for the same exact symptoms I have been having.I used to experienced this pain in the left side of my rib cage years ago, especially when I am sitting and when the environment is very cold (like when I am in an airconditioned room). But last December 2009, I was experiencing the pain on a daily basis. Mine would last a few hours and it will gradually subside when I lie down.Recently, while I was riding the bus, the pain hits me and it brought along a severe back pain I have not experienced before. The left side pain comes seldomnly now but the back pain is with me everyday. The pain is excruciating.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 18, 2010
    • 06:42 AM
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  • Hello, New to this forum and glad to meet you all.To everyone who has experienced the pain.If you lay on your back with your head slightly elevated and cough ,does the pain come then?(do not cough very hard or you will bring on the pain in all its ugly glory.)If it does and we all feel it, we cant all be hyperchondriacs.To me it is likely some kind of muscle injury.I have suffered this for around 2 years .I think I can link it back to a bad coughing fit.For me it can be uncomfortable sitting at the computer or walking (Note the word uncomfortable).Nothing can compare to the pain I feel when I am lying on my back without a care in the world and I suddenly forget about the pain the last time I coughed in this position.Then, without thinking,I cough again.The pain I feel is like a hot knife is trying to get out from the inside of my left hand ribcageLike others I can mark with a finger where this pain is.If all our symptoms are the same or close we may have something that all these apparent doctors have overlooked.Some say diet, some say medication, some say herbs, pyramids or exercise.Untill someone actually looks into it I suppose I will be going for another ultrasound tomorrow.I hope they find the bloody thing this time.good luck too you all.Davo.
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  • The same pain medicine brought on the same pain for me. Drink a lot of water and switch pain medicine.Hello, New to this forum and glad to meet you all.I am a 38 year old Smoking Housewife with no medical insurance, about 180 pounds....have gained about 30 pounds since starting work on the computer 3 years ago, and dont get alot of physical exercise, so I am in an upright posistion alot of days and of course bending forward with not so great posture.Other than generalized getting older and general aches and pains Im healthy.I have had SEVERE bouts of pain on my left side, just beneath my rib cage in the stomach area, for about 7 years.The pain isn't always present, it comes and goes but I never have it when im standing or laying down (only when Im sitting) , It can be brought on sometimes by coughing or even twisting/bending my body to the left ,right or foreward, doing sit ups, getting out of bed or for no apparent reason at all, but not every time, and I cant reproduce the pain for the doctor.Severity of the pain...UNBELIEVABLE !!! On a scale of 1-10 it is always a 8-9 during the episode.It almost feels like a charlie horse in my stomach, or severe labor pains but ALWAYS in the same spot ..I can put my finger on it every time..It's the same exact spot.No chance that Im pregnant Ive had a tubal 15 years ago, and as mentioned this has been ongoing for about 7 years.The muscles in my stomach area completely contract and I cant hardley breath in or out untill it passes.It lasts about 30 seconds and then stops leaving a sore,bruised feeling for an hour or so in that area.I can apply pressure with my hand to the spot and be very still or lay down as I feel the muscles begin to contract and that will usually delay or stop the full blown spasm for awhile or a day.There's no bruising, I cant feel any lumps, it used to only happen about once a month ( sometimes It wouldnt happen for 3-6 months) but recently it has been more frequent happening 1-2 times per week.It doesnt cause fever, and im not dibilitated except when im having the pain.I am constipated and gassey quite often ( I think I should be going more than I do),I get indigestion often but hardley ever have diarhea.These dont feel like gas pains, they are extremely more severe than that.I dont loose my appetite,I dont take laxitives because I hate the stomach ache produced by them.The only meds I take are Advil or aleve for pain ,claritin for allergies and Nyquil when I have a cold.I also occasionally get a burning achey feeling in my back, towards the top between my shoulder blades, it's a radiating ache no more severe on one side than the other, but occasionally radiates up the right side of my neck ... usually brought on during colder weather or times when im stressed or smoking more than usuall , I thought it comes from my lungs and was a URI but my general physician always says my lungs sound fine, so maybe it is coming from muscles ?I might add, taking Nyquil seems to help the pain between my shoulder blades.I have brought these pains to the attention of my general physician for years and she looks at me as though she's puzzled so I stopped even bringing it up to her because she makes me feel stupid, I am not a hypochondriac .7 Years ago she put me on anti-depressants after my 5 - 6 th complaint about these pains , I assumed she was thinking that I was too stressed and freaking myself out , I stopped taking them after the first 6 months or year because the pains didnt stop and I didnt feel depressed even in the begining .I dont take pain pills so I turned those down when they were offered and told her I dont want a band-aid , I want to know whats wrong.She says it could be alot of things (possibly more than one thing) and I should have an MRI done but I cant afford that.Any ideas?
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  • Hi All. I'm writing because ( as everyone above ) I have the same problem. I'm 24 years old and the first time I remember having it was when I was 16. It's so painful! I arrived here because I just got it again after more than a year and I was thinking is my gallbladder but from what I read above it might not be. I got an ultrasound about two or three years ago and everything looked normal. I wonder if anyone has found any medical literature on the topic??
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  • I've had this problem for years as well, it is amazingly debilitating at times.it is brought upon but different things like a twist, a cough, a laugh, and sometimes just for no reason.Well I got a real bad cold/bronchial cough last week, and unfortunately my heavy coughing set it off several times a day and as you guys know that is just..well ya just wanna cry when you feel that inkling that one might start. So I did a lot of surfing and maybe you guys should look at this site too because it kinda seems related, and they are pointed towards Fibromyalgia, now this would mean you have some other symptoms as well so maybe not for everyone but I mentioned it to my Dr. and He is taking it very seriously.http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Respiratory-Disorders/Why-do-I-get-cramps-under-my-rib-cage-ie-my-lungs/show/476138That lead me to herehttp://www.fibromyalgia-symptoms.org/forums/Fibromyalgia_General_Discussion/Severe_Spasms_or_Cramps_in_side_of_Rib_Cage_/Not pleasant and probably not going to apply to many of you but maybe worth looking into for some.
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  • I don't even know how I ended up on this page and found your post but when I read it I was shocked and relieved all at the same time. I am a 49 year old female who has had three c-sections and my gall-bladder removed after my first child who weighed 10 lbs. The other two babies were 6 lbs. and 7 lbs 12 ozs. In addition, for more years than I can count I have also been dealing with chronic constipation issues. After an Upper/Lower GI years ago my internist told me I had an elongated colon. Recently, I had to undergo a full hysterectomy after my OBGYN found 11 fibroid cysts and pre-cancerous cells on the cervical lining revealed after she performed a cone-ectomy. My point in telling you all of these things which occured over the span of 20+ years is that I have been having the same exact muscle spasms beneath my left rib cage since having my gall-bladder out but moreso after my last two c-sections which were almost 19 and 16 years ago. Several years back I was outside playing with them on one of those sling style swings that was low to the ground. When I sat down and tried to push off the ground to go backwards to build momentum the pressure of my foot against the ground caused an immediate and full blown spasm. If I didn't know any better I'd swear it was my left ovary but it seemed more like an area about the size of an orange. Anyway, it tensed so fast and so tightly I had all I could do to drop from the swing and onto the ground before it had me so buckled up (doubled over) all I could do was maintain the fetal position. My daughters ran over to me horrified not knowing what was wrong. The spasm like pain was so controlling (exactly like a severe charlie horse deep inside my stomach just above where my thigh joins my torso) that I was totally incapacitated. My girls had to lean over just to hear what I was saying because I couldn't even talk aside from a whisper the pain was so intense. I said, "Go, get Daddy!!" and I thought I was going to pass out before he got there. I started doing my Lamaze breathing from childbirthing class and slowly with me trying very hard to relax it began to calm down. By the time my husband ran down to me with the girls in tow I was to the point where I was able to reach for his hand to help me up off the ground. By then the neighbors were outside after seeing what was going on from their kitchen window...talk about embarrasing! Another episode happened when I was sitting on the side of my daughters bed about three months after that and she had one of those little doll houses with a handle on top next to her bed on the floor. I was reading the "Wizard of Oz" to her and thought..."Oh, cool I'll provide a visual of the house flying through the tornado." So, as I'm reading that part of the book I took my socked foot and hooked my toes under the handle and as I stared lifting it up into the air the slight weight of that on the end of my foot sent me into another episode similar to the one in the yard. I slid off the bed and ended up on the floor in the fetal position. To this day, even after multiple surgeries to remove kids, my gallbladder, 11 fibroid cysts on my ovaries and all my female organs (ranging in size from a quarter to a newborn babys head...I still get them). Now they occur most often when I have my legs in an upright position during intercourse with my knees bent and legs pulled back slightly. One wrong move and that area of my abdomin starts to spasm and if I tap my husbands arm and he releases my leg he has to do it slowly because to let it drop would multiply the pain because my natural tendency would be to control it to keep it from falling, which triggers the spasm. So, in all three examples and believe me there have been probably a hundred or more over the last 20+ years it seemed they were triggered by the movement of my left leg either pushing against something in an attempt to put weight on it or pulling it back to a certain degree. I've also noticed that sometimes when I have jeans on and I'm sitting on the toilet when I try to wipe from front to back if I to back to far leaning forward it tries to catch me, too. I have had a lower abdominal ultrasound and nothing abnormal was ever detected. However, my theory is this... My theory... I suspect one of two things...its either my colon spasming because of dryness due to eating without drinking enough (and I drink plenty but there are times when I'll down a few servings of like Sunchips or some other dry snack without drinking much until I'm done) or its the result of some kind of torsion. By that I mean, either my colon getting caught and twisted up in scar tissue or the colon itself twisting...sort of like when you make one of those animal balloons. If the lower part of the colon contains something more solid or compacted than the contents further up then the lower part would be bottom heavy lending itself to possible twisting given certain physical movements. I also read recently that a person's colon can be detached from the abdominal wall which occurs more in women. And, considering its elongated nature there are probably plenty of times fecal matter moves around bends or folds and separates into individual segments (like train cars connected together until they go around a bend and derail). Here's the kicker though...I had my full hysterectomy in October 2008 and prior to the surgery I asked my OBGYN to clean up any old scar tissue in there from my 3 c-sections since she used the same incision pathway...she agreed she would do what she could. With the surgery I was getting rid of all the cysts and a lot of the scar tissue figuring that should narrow my theory to the colon. And, now almost 18 months out the wrong movements can still trigger a spasm.FOOTNOTE: When my now 29 year old son was about 16 years old he had severely painful episodes with his testical. This happened when he'd turn over in bed at night in his sleep and too my horror would begin screaming in agony. As it turned out, he had what his urologist referred to as testicular torsion. And, developing inside his testical was a small folical (similar to an appendage or cilia hair only firmer). When his testical would move about freely that folical would catch on the inner side of his sack and get tangled up so much that it contourted or twisted the inside of his testical causing it to rotate opposite from the outter skin. This same logic seems to be the case with these unexplained spasms I'm experiencing accept instead of an internal vs. external section each going in opposite directions the colon seems to be twisting and through deliberate relaxation and retracting the movement that set it off it seems to calm it back down. My biggest fear over the years has been concern that this could happen while I was driving in which case I probably would have ended up in a tree with my small children in the car with me. Fortunately, I drive with my right foot which has never caused the spasm to occur on the left side of my torso. I hoped this helped someone albeit lengthy in nature. If you have any questions for me you can email them to me at seemefly06@msn.com and please include the words SPASTIC COLON in the subject line so I know its a result of this post. Thank you and I pray this information will help someone uncover the cause of their problem.
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  • i had pains exactly like that and then the pain got very very bad,, and i ended up in hospital and i found out i had pancreatitisMy husband had stabbing pains under his left rib cage and it was also pancreatitis. His Aunt also died 3 months ago from pancreatic inflammation which went unattended.
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  • I am soooo glad that someone else has posted their stories. I am up late at night trying to find out what is wrong with me. I have been having these spasms on the left side just under my rib cage,for about 3 years now. It feels like a tennis ball trying to shove its way from the inside out. I have to put my right hand over the spot and press in while stretching up and arching my back with my left hand stretched above my head....a very scary feeling because I know what is coming and i am always afraid it may last way too long. When it finally starts to subside it starts quivering and straightening itself up, and during this process I have to control my breathing and try to relax and be patience for it too COMPLETELY subside or else it comes back full blast. My worst episode happened while on an airplane for 10 hours...the seat was in a position that just irritated the "spot". I felt panic and just wanted to disappear. I was so embarrassed (a big "OH NO" came into my thoughts) and didn't want to cause a scene. Finally I stood up in the aisle and tried to stretch this thing out. It looked (i hope) like I was doing lunges, although I know the look on my face had to seem like i had just dirty my pants...you know...Panic. I do hope that someone finds out what this is. I have mentioned it once to my Dr. but really felt that I didn't want to convince him what I was feeling was real. I am currently trying to find a Dr. that has the same symptoms...no luck yet. But good luck to all you fellow sufferers and I hope that my painful experience brings you a little peace of mind that your not crazy, there are many that suffer with you. And If anyone finds a cure or a Doctor that knows about this please let me know.Someone told me there doctor told them it is a charlie horse of the diaphragm, once I heard that I tried vinegar and it worked, just like it does for charlie horses.
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