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20 Year Old without Diagnoses

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  • Posted By: PleaseHelp
  • November 18, 2007
  • 01:22 PM

My Daughter has the following symptons and has not been diagnosed in almost a year. She is slowly deteriorating before my eyes. She has withdrawn from college, does not talk very much. She talks to herself but quietly, one can only see her lips move. She has lost 12-14 lbs. She eats 3 meals a day. Her muscle tone is not firm anymore, she used to be a cheerleader and gymnist. She is slow to answer questions, some memory lost. She left out walking one night at 1:00AM until the police found her at 6:00 AM. One doctor said she had Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome - will this impact you negatively. I have thyroidism, but she tested negatively. She has been physically abused by a couple of old boyfriends. Could she have brain damage? She had a CAT scan - it was negative. I am running out....

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  • Has she had a Psyc analysis?It could be a number of things including Depression, or even post traumatic stress disorder brought on by the abuse she recieved.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 18, 2007
    • 03:41 PM
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  • Has she had a Psyc analysis? It could be a number of things including Depression, or even post traumatic stress disorder brought on by the abuse she recieved. We have been to 4 different counselors. 2 did not give a diagnoses. 1 gave an immediate diagnoses after speaking with her for 30 minutes - schizophrenia - I refuse to believe. The 4th and current counselor believes she is suffering with post traumatic stress disorder. She did recieve a very hard blow to her head - thrown against a brick building, however, the CAT scan revealed nothing. The scarry part is - she is not getting better. Should I be worried that she is only recieving counseling right now and may stand a chance of irreversability?? Help --- anyone --- we are desperate.
    PleaseHelp 2 Replies
    • November 18, 2007
    • 11:13 PM
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  • Could you elaborate on what you mean by "3 meals a day?" How many calories a day do you think she is consuming? Is there any evidence of an eating disorder?Severe head trauma isn't necessary for post traumatic stress disorder. The traumatic event could just be something very stressfull or something that caused great fear. It doesn't need to be a single event either. It could be several stressfull or fear inducing events. I would still say that's a possibility. I would try treating her with a combination of anti-depressants and counseling. Effexor in particular is a drug that might help her put some weight back on while improving her overall mental condition.
    frustrated2007 3 Replies
    • November 19, 2007
    • 03:45 AM
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  • Could you elaborate on what you mean by "3 meals a day?" How many calories a day do you think she is consuming? Is there any evidence of an eating disorder? Severe head trauma isn't necessary for post traumatic stress disorder. The traumatic event could just be something very stressfull or something that caused great fear. It doesn't need to be a single event either. It could be several stressfull or fear inducing events. I would still say that's a possibility. I would try treating her with a combination of anti-depressants and counseling. Effexor in particular is a drug that might help her put some weight back on while improving her overall mental condition. Hi - there is absolutely no evidence of an eating disorder. She eats with her family. I ensure she has a hot breakfast - (eggs, turkey bacon or sausage, wheat breads, OJ ,Omelets, fruit - she consumes all). My Mom is keeping her during the day - she cooks a hot lunch daily (vegetables, chicken or fish and fruit). Then I pick her up and prepare a hot dinner. Her calorie intake is normal as well as her consumption. She is not bolemic. But I have noticed that she has gotten worse since February and it is now November. She has a great appetite. It is her personality. I do not recognize her at all. She continues to hesitate in answering questions, or she says no when she mean yes. She sits for hours without talking to people unless you ask her questions, she will only say yes or no. Or have 5-6 word sentences. I started her on YAZ last night for the Polycystic Ovary Syndrome - in hopes and prayer that it would balance her hormones. Maybe by some miracle of God that the hormonal imbalance is causing this. :( :confused:
    PleaseHelp 2 Replies
    • November 19, 2007
    • 01:43 PM
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  • what about celiac's disease...
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 20, 2007
    • 08:51 PM
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  • I am so sorry to hear you and your daughter are going through such a tough illness. I know from my own experience that the worst part of it can sometimes be not having a name or proper diagnosis for something that takes huge chunks of your life away. Your daugter's illness could be any number of things. Some "psych" things to be considered include things such as psychosis (which can be schizophrenia or from a long list of other causes), PTSD, depression, and/or drug use. Since there seems to be neurological involvement, however, it might be more helpful to go to a neurologist, since psychiatrists are reluctant to do neurological exams. Some things that may be worth checking into are Lupus, sjogren's, celiac, metabolic disorders, and - since you mentioned a history of thyroid disease in the family and mentioned that one doctor called it schizophrenia (psychosis)- I would seriously consider a rare illness called Hashimoto's Encephalopathy. I have it. In me, it presented primarily as fatigue, headaches, and ataxia. But it can also cause psychosis and a host of other symptoms including memory loss/dementia, focal deficits, seizures, just to name a few. it can make you very tired and somnolent and has put patients into comas.It presents differently in each patient. It is a rare complication of Hashimoto's thyroiditis (or Grave's disease but this is rarer). Your daughter's doctors have probably already "checked her thyroid" by looking at her TSH and perhaps her other thyroid hormones.The trouble is- and why I went undiagnosed for so long- is that most patients with HE have NORMAL thyroid hormones and are "euthyroid". The disease is only picked up by testing the thyroid antibodies, which are high. The tragedy here is that doctors are trained to not check thyroid antibodies UNLESS the hormones are abnormal first. And since most doctors have never even heard of HE, they don't know any better and there are countless people walking around with undiagnosed HE.So, just in case your daughter has Hashimoto's Encephalopathy, I would ask her doctors to please check her thyroid antibodies. You may want to cite your family history of thyroid disease and possible psychosis in your daughter.This disease is also known as SREAT- steroid responsive encephalopathy associated with autoimmune thyroiditis. it is treatable with steroids.Please keep us posted. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 21, 2007
    • 06:21 AM
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  • I am so sorry to hear you and your daughter are going through such a tough illness. I know from my own experience that the worst part of it can sometimes be not having a name or proper diagnosis for something that takes huge chunks of your life away. Your daugter's illness could be any number of things. Some "psych" things to be considered include things such as psychosis (which can be schizophrenia or from a long list of other causes), PTSD, depression, and/or drug use. Since there seems to be neurological involvement, however, it might be more helpful to go to a neurologist, since psychiatrists are reluctant to do neurological exams. Some things that may be worth checking into are Lupus, sjogren's, celiac, metabolic disorders, and - since you mentioned a history of thyroid disease in the family and mentioned that one doctor called it schizophrenia (psychosis)- I would seriously consider a rare illness called Hashimoto's Encephalopathy. I have it. In me, it presented primarily as fatigue, headaches, and ataxia. But it can also cause psychosis and a host of other symptoms including memory loss/dementia, focal deficits, seizures, just to name a few. it can make you very tired and somnolent and has put patients into comas.It presents differently in each patient. It is a rare complication of Hashimoto's thyroiditis (or Grave's disease but this is rarer). Your daughter's doctors have probably already "checked her thyroid" by looking at her TSH and perhaps her other thyroid hormones.The trouble is- and why I went undiagnosed for so long- is that most patients with HE have NORMAL thyroid hormones and are "euthyroid". The disease is only picked up by testing the thyroid antibodies, which are high. The tragedy here is that doctors are trained to not check thyroid antibodies UNLESS the hormones are abnormal first. And since most doctors have never even heard of HE, they don't know any better and there are countless people walking around with undiagnosed HE.So, just in case your daughter has Hashimoto's Encephalopathy, I would ask her doctors to please check her thyroid antibodies. You may want to cite your family history of thyroid disease and possible psychosis in your daughter.This disease is also known as SREAT- steroid responsive encephalopathy associated with autoimmune thyroiditis. it is treatable with steroids.Please keep us posted. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 21, 2007
    • 06:27 AM
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  • I would stop the Yaz. Even if she does have PCOS, the Yaz can hurt her in other ways. Like all BCPs, one of the possible side effects is stroke and it does affect moods. You don't want to compound her problems while looking for an answer.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 22, 2007
    • 04:56 AM
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  • When I first read this thread I thought -degenerative brain disorder.Creutzfeldt-Jakob deseaseHuntingtons deseasePrion deseaseRett syndromeAlzheimersI feel now I should have replyed with my thought.Memory loss is associated with Creutzfeldt-Jakob I have now learnt, not sure about the others yet. Degenerative brain disorders are pretty dire, some treatable most not.The point is I have not forgotten about your plea for help and regularly think about your daughters condition.Well today I got to thinking about deficiencies but not for long cause I was side tracked by the opposite- saturation. You mentioned she was diagnosed with schizophrenia, well excessive copper in the body can cause psychosis. Im talking about "Wilsons Desease".The process whereby excess copper is excreted is defective, so it accumulates in the body, particularly in the liver, nervous system and eyes.Memory loss is associated with this. A copper ring in the eyes seen under a microscope is all it takes to diagnose.I hope for your sake that this is her problem, caught in time it is very treatable.Keep us posted. Regards
    TerryG 120 Replies
    • November 25, 2007
    • 11:55 AM
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  • My first thoughts when I read this are of a friend of our family named Daniel. His mother passed away a few years back and without any type of councelling he began using drugs as a means to cope while his father began to date. He soon became a very illogical person, he was easily pressured into doing bizarre acts like flashing people even when someone made this comment in passing. A few years have gone by and after an accidental drug over dose he was ruled as skitzophrenic. The doctors said that he probably expierenced a huge trauma in his life and had it of been looked after by a proper psychologist he could have snapped out of it but now there is no chance. He talks to himself now, laughs to the jokes that the voices in his head tell him and continues his overall destructive tendencies. I do not mean to scare you into believing your daughter is a skitzophrenic but I would have her seeing a psychologist a few times a week and let her psychologist know that tou wish to address her past abuses.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 26, 2007
    • 06:35 PM
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  • As someone who has Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS), I can tell you none of that is caused by PCOS, in fact, weight GAIN is one of the symptoms to PCOS. If you are still concerned she has it, these are the symptoms of PCOS:- Multiple ovarian cysts- Irregular or absent menstrual cycle- Infertility- Acne- Obesity or inability to lose weight- Excessive body or facial hair- Insulin resistance and/or Diabetes- Thinning of scalp hair- Velvety, hyperpigmented skin folds- High blood pressure- Polycystic ovaries (these are 2-5 times the size of normal ovaries)- Multiple hormonal imbalances, commonly including androgens, cortisol, estrogens, FSH, Insulin, LH, progesterone, prolactin, thyroid It sounds to me like a mental disorder or neurological disorder. Is there anything that is in your geneology? Schizophrenia, Bipolar, Depression? She needs to see both a Psychologist and a Neurologist, to check for mental or neurological problems causing this. All her symptoms are indicative of one or both of those.
    PagaNovelty 14 Replies
    • November 26, 2007
    • 06:53 PM
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