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Help! Suffering from chronic fatigue and stomach pain for 5 years

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  • Posted By: Sooo_Tired
  • July 5, 2011
  • 02:47 AM

Hi, I'm a 25 year old male and I've been suffering from chronic fatigue and stomach bloating/pain since 2006.

As a kid I was always VERY active. Skateboarding, basketball, running, hiking you name it I did it.

I have not been able to keep a job or live my life anymore. I'm simply too tired and worn out feeling even as I type this. I feel my life is in shambles and it is EXTREMELY depressing. I try to be active these days but I feel my energy is drained the instant I try anything.

I've been to a few doctors and have had a colonoscopy, basic allergy test, thyroid test, Crohn's disease test, and a Celiac test. All were negative according to the doctors. Also tried taking anti-biotics but that did not help. Nobody can figure out what is wrong with me... they simply say well we can't figure this out.... Sorry, try taking more fiber.

I do take Citrucil every once in a while for loose stools but it does not help my fatigue and gas.

I take a multivitamin(Centrum men's) and a probiotic. Occasionally I take fish oils and calcium supplements.

I also have a hard time eating and sleeping... I'm the absolute lightest sleeper of anyone I've ever known and hardly ever have an appetite. When I do eat I keep it healthy for the most part.... A friend suggested I try marijuana which has been very helpful for these for the past few months but does not help my fatigue/gas (although I do feel much more rested when I wake up in the morning and actually have an appetite). I know it's illegal but i'm willing to try anything that will help at this point.

My insurance runs out in 2 months so I'm trying to figure out what other tests I should have done. Any advice? I will be switching to a new doctor...making an appointment tomorrow.

I should also mention I have developed nasal allergies (or so I think) over the past 2 years which seems to be getting worse. It's hard to breath out of my nose and I'm losing my sense of smell. Also I get quite a bit of phlegm in my throat... might possibly be sinusitis? It is quite irritating.

I will update this thread with anything else I can think of since I am fairly tired and it's hard to think straight. If there is ANY other info you feel would be helpful please let me know. I will be checking this thread regularly.

It's a shame I will be spending yet ANOTHER holiday in doors due to my fatigue.

To everyone else happy 4th of July!

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  • Hi!"chronic fatigue" = There are many conditions which cause it. Each person should be considered separately to define a real diagnosis. For example, it may be glucose regulation/pancreas problem issue, or system connective tissue disorder, peripheral nervous system issue, etc. This is only a symptom, the reasons may be different."stomach bloating/pain" = Are you sure that it is a problem with your stomach? May be it is a bowels or pancreas problem?"have had a colonoscopy ..." "All were negative according to the doctors." = Did all these tests show any abnormalities regarding your small/large intestine and lungs?If you post your biometrical parameters - date of birth, weight, height, normal BP numbers, I could estimate your overall health status.
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  • I suppose I should have typed abdominal pain. I'm not absolutely certain it's my stomach. The bloating/gas feeling ranges from the base of my rib cage to almost my pubic area... it's always central and is a very deep gasey feeling... It feels like the gas is stuck for a bit causing nausea... later I might be able to burp it up for some relief. This can happen if I wait too long to eat in the mornings (or any other time really). At night when I'm getting ready for bed about an hour after eating I get a slightly different abdominal pain.... it's more of a stomach turning feeling and lots of noises/grumbling that keep me up but I can have gas associated with t his as well sometimes making me feel hungry even though I just ate.What I eat certainly plays a role... I used to eat Quaker instant oatmeal every morning thinking oatmeal was good for me. Every time I ate the stuff I'd get loose stools, nausea, gas and feel tired throughout the day. I have since switched to a frozen steel cut oatmeal from Costco and feel better (bulkier stools) after eating it but still have lingering symptoms.Other foods that cause these symptoms are thin mints, mint ice cream, watermelon, chipotle burgers, grapes, skim milk, spicy meat such as sausage ,certain breads (such as Sara-Lee) and occasionally peanut butter.Sometimes I can eat one of these foods one day and feel fine and eat it the next and feel very sick...usually involves burping up whatever I ate and can still taste it. I did try taking antacids but this did not help.The colonoscopy showed mild diverticulosis and internal hemorrhoids. Other than that the Dr. said everything was normal. The Dr. did not go as far as the small intestine or lungs and I've never had an upper GI done.I am 6 foot 3 inches and weigh around 165 most of the time. Was born in 1985. I'm not sure about my BP numbers but I do check it at the local pharmacy occasionally and it is always in the specified range. I will post the numbers next time I get it checked.
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  • I doubt that I can give you reliable explanation of causes of your diseases without knowing your full date of birth. I need it for my calculations. If you feel not comfortable to post your DOB at forum, you can send me PM or email with full DOB. If you point out only half of the month when you was born, the accuracy of my diagnosis will be lower.
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  • Hi i have similar symptoms plus shortness of breath. My DoB is 17-02-1982. Please help me.
    prashantp17 2 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi i have similar symptoms plus shortness of breath. My DoB is 17-02-1982. Please help me.Also my BP is 130/84 but sometime it falls to 111/68 when i get fatigued. Is it becaus eof allergies/panic attack? Also I sit in slouching position. my height is 6 feet and weight is 87 kgs. The SoB and fatigue remain through out day sometimes. Abdominal pain is in upper right quadrant of stomach
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  • Also my BP is 130/84 but sometime it falls to 111/68 when i get fatigued. Is it becaus eof allergies/panic attack? Also I sit in slouching position. my height is 6 feet and weight is 87 kgs. The SoB and fatigue remain through out day sometimes. Abdominal pain is in upper right quadrant of stomachOK. It will take some time to make calculations and perform analysis, so please wait.At my first look there is some probability that you have problem with your bowels, the "shortness of breath" symptom point out the connection with large intestine. Just wait, I'll tell you what I know.Additional question - are you male or female?
    alltimatehelp 128 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi prashantp17,Sorry for delay, I was busy. Now I summarize the info for your case.Here is the short description of the main problems with your health:1) First of all, you have serious problem with your lungs. The medical condition in your lungs has contradictory nature. This means that inflammation process (bronchitis) alternates with asthmatic attacks. In other words, you have both conditions, bronchitis and bronchial asthma simultaneously. And that is why you don't feel definitely real "attacks", but only "shortness of breath" - one condition get smoothed over other condition. Undoubtedly, during aggravation in the future you will face the real asthmatic attacks bothering you badly and worsening your breath.I suppose, this is the real cause of your chronic fatigue. Due to limited (short) breath your body has constantly insufficient air stream incoming into your lungs, and feels the lack of oxygen. This is also has significant negative influence on your blood circulation as one of the contributing factors, so you can notice it by changing your blood pressure (see below).2) You have a serious problem with your large/small intestine and duodenum. It seems like duodenitis and something like colitis or maybe ulcerative colitis, proctitis, etc. This may cause constipation or diarrhea, gases, abdominal pain, difficult digestion and other symptoms. I think it is reasonable for you to pass colonoscopy test in order to confirm diagnosis.3) You have a problem with blood circulation in your head and in your heart. You have excess blood volume in the head, this may cause encephalitis (brain inflammation), headaches, and causes also BP "jumps".In the heart there is inflammation condition too - something like miocarditis, pericarditis, etc. Such kinds of heart disorder usually are less noticeable than head problems.Additional details:- You don't have any significant problem with your immune system, so "allergies" are not the main issue requiring special attention. You may have weak immunity or strong immunity, but anyway, allergic reactions should not be strongly pronounced for you.- You also don't have any significant problem with your stomach, in worst case you may have an easy form of gastritis, or just symptoms of gastritis (which will disappear when you get cured your bowels).- You have some problems with your urogenital system, but you didn't give me information about your sex/gender, so I'm just warning you to keep your sight on the kidneys and bladder issues (and back issues too).- It's necessary to mention that you have possibility of serious skin diseases, e.g. dermatitis, eczema, psoriasis, etc.P.S. Please note, this is my diagnostics personally for prashantp17 user!Sooo_Tired, you may have different picture of your health status.
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  • I can't pm for some reason.... DOB is 9...9...85. Not sure why month and day are necessary but any help is appreciated.
    Sooo_Tired 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • Hi Sooo_Tired,Here is my diagnostics personally for you.First I want to say, you really have serious problem with your stomach. Besides, you have serious problem with your pancreas too. And additionally, you have serious problem with you bowels (large/small intestine/duodenum). These three problems cause your abdominal pain. Please see my short description below.1) Gastrointestinal tract/ digestive system:- Stomach = chronic gastritis; gastric acid is above normal values.You should go through gastroscopy test (EGD or esophagogastroduodenoscopy) with biopsy to see what's the state of your stomach now.- Duodenum = acute duodenitis.Also can be checked by gastroscopy.- Pancreas = acute pancreatitis (acute form of inflammation of pancreas) with excessive activity of pancreatic duct (hyper- type of dyskinesia).I'm not sure about available & reliable tests for pancreatitis. Usually it is difficult to notice such pathologic inflammation process in the pancreas by means of ultrasound or MRI, only patologies like tumor, dystrophy, degeneration in pancreas can be noticed easily with ultrasound/mri. Maybe some indirect blood tests/hormone analysis, etc. will be helpful.Please note: ultrasound for gastritis and duodenitis is useless and not informative too.- Very possible that due to pancreas disorder you have hypoglycemia.As regarding fatigue symptom, I think it is connected with your problem with pancreas/glucose level. Your body and your brain feels the lack of sugar (glucose) regulated by pancreas and that is why you feel out of energy.Did you check your glucose level in the blood?Did you pass any OGTT (oral glucose tolerance test) with fasting conditions?Note that there are different types of hypoglycemia, in some cases the glucose level numbers may stay within normal range (for example, reactive hypoglycemia).- Large intestine = spasms, pains, atrophy, colitis/ulcerative colitis, haemorrhoids, paraproctitis, gases, constipation or diarrhea. - of course, no doubt!2) Other your possible problems:- You have problem with your immune system (allergies, weak immunity, lymphoid tissue disorders, maybe some autoimmune diseases)- Lungs = chronic bronchitis- Heart = stenocardia, ischemia- Brain/CNS = lack of blood circulation, cerebral vasoconstriction, hypertension or hypotension, headaches/migraines- Kidneys = pielonephritis, kidneys stones- Urinary bladder = cystitis- Back/Spinal problems (sciatica, disc herniation/protrusion, spinal cord inflammation)That's all, briefly.
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  • How did you come up with this diagnosis?Some of these seem eerily spot on....Will be going to the Doctor to have the gastroscopy and OGTT... I don't think I ever had my glucose level checked but I will now! Thanks!
    Sooo_Tired 8 Replies Flag this Response
  • How did you come up with this diagnosis?Some of these seem eerily spot on....Will be going to the Doctor to have the gastroscopy and OGTT... I don't think I ever had my glucose level checked but I will now! Thanks!I just gave you short description of the current state of your health and some highly possible future disorders & pathological conditions in term of modern medicine.Actually I know much more, but I prefer to keep silence about some issues.Please watch carefully symptoms of diseases I have mentioned in (2) section, there is a considerable probability that you have these conditions developing now or you will face them in the future.Most of your diseases can be cured easily, except disorders connected with lungs, large intestine and related (these ones require much more efforts)."How did you come up with this diagnosis?" = I suppose, ancient doctors and medieval physicians (which were much wiser and much helpful than modern doctors) could answer your question...Good luck! Wish you good health!
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  • Okay, I'm trying to get my private messages enabled... Just tried sending an email to administrators using the contact link so we'll see how that goes. Hopefully I'll be sending you a PM soon. Your help is greatly appreciated.
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  • So it's been a few weeks and I've been to 2 more doctors.I was tested for mono, checked glucose tolerance and liver/kidney functions.Also had a barium upper GI X-ray done for ulcers.... I was told all of the above was NORMAL.I was prescribed Nortriptyline and have been taking it for the past week or so. It seems the gas does not bother me as much with this drug but it's definitely still there. I still have a hard time sleeping despite taking this right before bed and I feel 'spaced out' at times. Also have to drink lots of water due to dry mouth. Not sure the very small amount of relief is worth the side effects.I have another appointment tomorrow morning and I'm wondering what else I should have them test for? The nausea/gas has really been feeling more like hunger pains lately..... I eat and I feel a little better for an hour or two but it just comes back sometimes worse. If I skip breakfast lunch or dinner or have them late due to being busy the pain can get really bad. This often times keeps me up because I feel like I need something to eat in the middle of the night due to the pain. I tried getting an endoscopy done through both doctors but they refuse and ended up getting the upper GI x-ray done instead.Less than a month on my insurance!Any help is appreciated.Thanks
    Sooo_Tired 8 Replies
    • August 13, 2011
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  • - "Also had a barium upper GI X-ray done for ulcers" =Where I wrote "ulcer"??? I said "gastritis", "duodenitis", "pancreatitis"!!!These are different conditions! It is inflammation process in your stomach, duodenum, pancreas. As I wrote, usually it can not be noticed by ultrasound, MRI, CT, Xrays, and similar methods. Only gastroscopy (EGD) with biopsy can deliver actual information about the current state of your stomach & duodenum.- "I tried getting an endoscopy done through both doctors but they refuse and ended up getting the upper GI x-ray done instead." =I doubt about competence and adequacy of both your doctors. First thing they should do hearing complaints on the stomach pain & gastritis/duodenitis suspicion is gastroscopy. Xrays, CT/MRI can show only "heavy" patologies like tumor, dystrophy-degeneration (i.e. ulcer).- "checked glucose tolerance ... was NORMAL"Maybe you should check insulin level instead of glucose level? I said in some cases the hypoglycemia could be presented with normal glucose level.Ask taniaaust1, as I know she has hypoglycemia with insulin level abnormality (hyperinsulinemia), I remember she adviced to measure insulin levels during OGTT test.Good luck!
    alltimatehelp 128 Replies
    • August 13, 2011
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  • I told them to check for those things but they will not listen... Doctors do not want to do an endoscopy because it is invasive and expensive.... I went back to one of the doctors yesterday and they've gone back to throwing pills at me.... Got a prescription for something that is supposed to line the stomach??? Don't know the name of it.... haven't picked it up yet.I don't understand why they are giving me something that is supposed to line the stomach when I don't have ulcers according to the x-ray.Also got free samples of Dexilant which is supposed to be better than the Aciphex I was taking.I told the Dr. the antacids do not make a difference but he says to keep taking them anyway...:(Not sure what I need to do to get a doctor that will help me with this endoscopy... I have less than a month left on my insurance then I'm screwed.:(:(:(I guess I'll try another doctor on Monday... will ask for an insulin test and endoscopy. Your help is greatly appreciated alltimatehelp
    Sooo_Tired 8 Replies
    • August 14, 2011
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  • "Doctors do not want to do an endoscopy because it is invasive and expensive" = very strange... never thought that it is so expensive. It is usual "routine" procedure, very common but very informative, nothing extraordinary except it is unpleasant for a patient.One of the possible options is try to get some medications for gastritis, duodenitis and pancreatitis symptoms relief. But it's not correct without definite confirmed diagnosis. You should ask your doctors, I would not recommend you to do so. Maybe some "weak" natural remedies with well-known effects & safety will help to identify the reason of your problems. Sorry, I'm not expert in drugs & pharmaceutical products. I prefer do not use medications in the treatment (when it is possible), I practice special highly-effective acupuncture technique for the treatment of serious and chronic diseases. I can help in your treatment only by acupuncture methods. I suppose all your disorders can be cured provided that your pain symptoms and fatigue was not caused by large intestine problem. Almost all other your problems (except special cases) can be fixed easily by acupuncture needles.Regarding possible hypoglycemia issue: try to take special strict low carb diet, search at this forum, taniaaust1 has mentioned about it in several posts.But I'm afraid you need "strong" anti-infammation means because of acute and long-term permanent inflammation process in your digestive organs. I think "weak" means like diet, etc. will not help you significantly.Good luck!
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    • August 15, 2011
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  • This thread, while very interesting to me, is pretty old now. RS Gold
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    • August 16, 2011
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  • ^Not sure what that's supposed to mean.Anyway I've been getting light headed upon standing up (almost to the point of passing out) more than usual so I decided to search around and came across this site which I thought was interesting.http://www.compassionateacupuncture.com/decreased_adrenal_function.htmSeems decreased adrenal function could explain a lot of my symptoms.... I have another appointment on Tuesday so we'll see how that goes.I asked and was told I've been tested for insulin levels and were said to be normal... A strict low carb diet is hard for me to do since I'm underweight to begin with... I tried it before when I thought I had Celiac Disease and it did not go well.
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    • August 22, 2011
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  • The past few days of my life have been a non stop nightmare. The gas in my large intestine (at least I think that's where it is...below the belly button) has been EXCRUCIATING to the point of feeling like I'm going to explode. OTC antigas meds do not help for gas in this lower region. Stools have been very loose like diarrhea. I believe stomach acid is getting into my colon because every time I have a bowel movement I get a stinging/burning sensation along with blood and a mucus like film on the toilet paper. It's EXTREMELY depressing and the depression is only getting worse. I'm finding it harder to get out of bed in the morning and have any positive thoughts in general.... friends and family do not seem to understand...lack of understanding and emotional support is taking it's toll.....beginning to wonder if life is even worth living any more since it seems I'll be lucky to make it to my 30s especially with insurance running out in a few days and no job or strength to find/keep a job in sight.I just had an EGD done today and was told I have a hiatal hernia... I already knew this though.... probably due to years of persistent vomiting. Other than that they said everything looked normal. No visible peptic ulcers or damage which surprised me. They took biopsies from the duodenum and esophagus... should know the results in the next few days. Will report back when results are in.
    Sooo_Tired 8 Replies
    • August 30, 2011
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  • "Doctors do not want to do an endoscopy because it is invasive and expensive" = very strange... never thought that it is so expensive. It is usual "routine" procedure, very common but very informative, nothing extraordinary except it is unpleasant for a patient.One of the possible options is try to get some medications for gastritis, duodenitis and pancreatitis symptoms relief. But it's not correct without definite confirmed diagnosis. You should ask your doctors, I would not recommend you to do so. Maybe some "weak" natural remedies with well-known effects & safety will help to identify the reason of your problems. Sorry, I'm not expert in drugs & pharmaceutical products. I prefer do not use medications in the treatment (when it is possible), I practice special highly-effective acupuncture technique for the treatment of serious and chronic diseases. I can help in your treatment only by acupuncture methods. I suppose all your disorders can be cured provided that your pain symptoms and fatigue was not caused by large intestine problem. Almost all other your problems (except special cases) can be fixed easily by acupuncture needles.Regarding possible hypoglycemia issue: try to take special strict low carb diet, search at this forum, taniaaust1 has mentioned about it in several posts.But I'm afraid you need "strong" anti-infammation means because of acute and long-term permanent inflammation process in your digestive organs. I think "weak" means like diet, etc. will not help you significantly.Good luck!Hi altimatehelp! You seem like you know a lot about health disorders. I was wondering if you could help me. I have had an unknown illness for 5 years now. I am a 20 year old female. My birthday is 4/9/1991 and my BP is 100/70. When I was 16 years old I was diagnosed with polycystic ovarian syndrome. Then when I was 19 I started having serious bowel problems and I had a colonoscopy and the doctor just said it came back negative and I probably have IBS. Then about a week or two ago I went to an endrocrinologist and she said that my thyroid was enlarged and she called for bloodwork which of course came back normal. Oh I also had viral meningitis in may. I went for a thyroid ultrasound today so hopefully they can make a diagnosis.So hear are my symptoms that I have been experiencing:Weight gain (I work out 8 hours a week. I'm a taekwondo athlete and I'm 5'1 and 143 pounds)Hair LossDry skinBrittle NailsIrregular periodsConstipation (but then it comes out as super loose stool)BloatingGasMouth sores (frequent)Neck pain (severe and frequent)Joint painEnlarged thyroidHeadaches (frequent)SciaticaPelvic painIrregular periods (even though my polycystic is well under control. I have no cysts currently)IBS symptomsTIRED all the time. I sleep so much and never feel restedBrain fog and confusionA persistent fever that has gone on for the past 3 days (99-101)I'm not sure if I forgot anything but I'll post again if I did. I dont know whats wrong! Please help.
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