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7 year old with severe heartburn/stomach aches

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 5, 2007
  • 06:46 PM

My 7 year old daughter has been getting really bad stomach aches, heartburn, and diarrhea. I'm not sure if these symptoms are all connected to 1 problem or separate problems. Last year I took her to a pediatric GI doctor and he said sounds like she is lactose intolorant. So I cut out all milk, casien, and whey. This seemed to work for awhile but now she is starting to get really bad stomach aches again along with diarrhea and occasional vomiting. As well as severe heartburn. I have been keeping a journal of her symptoms here is a copy of just a few days:

Day 1:

3:10 PM Heartburn
3:30 PM Heartburn & Stomach Ache
5:00 PM Heartburn & Stomach Ache
6:00 PM Heartburn
6:45 PM Stomach Ache & Diarrhea

Day 2

5:00 AM Nauseous & Vomiting
7:00 AM Nauseous & Vomiting
11:30 AM Nauseous
1:45 PM Heartburn
2:15 PM Stomach Ache
7:45 PM Nauseous

Day 3

6:00 PM Heartburn
7:30 PM Heartburn
8:15 PM Heartburn
9:30 PM Diarrhea

This is on a daily basis.

In the last 3 years she has had 2 Inguinal Hernia surgeries. After doing a search on the internet for causes of severe heartburn I found that a possibility is a Hiatal hernia. Which normally I would just brush the idea of that to the side but considering that she has had 2 previous surgeries for hernias in the past really makes me wonder if this could be the cause of her symtpoms.

I am taking her to the doctor Monday. But in the mean time I would just like some ideas as to what this could be or if anyone has experienced this before.

Thanks for your help!

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  • What does he eat regularly?
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 5, 2007
    • 06:47 PM
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  • Well since her GI doctor said she was probably lactose intolorant we have cut all milk and milk products out of her diet. Other than that she eats anything and everything she wants. Hotdogs, Hamburgers, Dry cereal or cereal with soy milk (only occasionally) Pop tarts, Oatmeal, bacon, eggs... She loves fruit like bananas, apples, strawberries and grapes. Basically she pretty much eats just like a normal 7 year old just without milk....
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 5, 2007
    • 06:54 PM
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  • I see you listed some processed food- honestly, the fact that they sale those products everywhere does not mean they deliver any good- in fact, they deliver harm.Hotdogs, pop tarts, and regular bacon (treated with artificial flavoring and preservatives) are very toxic and contain hidden sugars.Your girl's little gut needs special vitamin/minerals that are not found in these foods. She is probably deficient in vitamin D, Zing, Magnesium.It is good that she does not drink milk. You need to also eliminate all refined sugar, wheat and oats (for now, since those are common allergens), and processed oils.Only cook her meal with a dash of extra virgin cold press organic olive oil.Get her probiotics pills and give her flax seed oil and fish oil every day- these 2 oils contain the essential ingredients that our body uses to build our gastric track membranes.Make sure she eats lots of tubers, roots, cabbage and its family, papaya, squashes, broccoli, carrots, and cucumbers. They will pick any impurities in her track.Get creative with your blender.Rice and Soy drinks are extremely acid on the stomach.Check for alkaline foods, doctors don't understand the acid-alkaline diet-it is very easy to follow- just don't give too many acid forming foods to the body at once.http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 5, 2007
    • 07:06 PM
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  • Thank you for such a quick response!I am willing to try anything to get my little girl feeling better. She is normally a straight A student and works very hard. But since these problems have become worse her grades are slowly starting to drop and she just don't get to enjoy life as a kid. All the other kids will be outside playing and she will be laying beside me on the couch because her tummy hurts. Or as she says "I feel like throw up is in my throat". This has been ongoing for over a year now. Usually when I take her to the doctor he says oh its probably IBS or it may be this or that and writes her a rx for some random medication. I just want to know what is causing my daughter so much paid and fix the problem instead of covering up the symptoms. Once again thank you for your quick reply!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 5, 2007
    • 07:17 PM
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  • One possibility could be celiac disease. Is she small for her age? Celiacs don't have to be, but it is very common. Celiac is an autoimmune reaction to wheat, barley and rye. For more info go to www.gluten.net and click on health info. A simple blood test for antibodies is the first step to dx. and IBS is a common misdiagnosis for Celiac.Good luck!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 6, 2007
    • 05:45 AM
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  • Posted above: I see you listed some processed food- honestly, the fact that they sale those products everywhere does not mean they deliver any good- in fact, they deliver harm.Hotdogs, pop tarts, and regular bacon (treated with artificial flavoring and preservatives) are very toxic and contain hidden sugars.Your girl's little gut needs special vitamin/minerals that are not found in these foods. She is probably deficient in vitamin D, Zing, Magnesium.It is good that she does not drink milk. You need to also eliminate all refined sugar, wheat and oats (for now, since those are common allergens), and processed oils.Only cook her meal with a dash of extra virgin cold press organic olive oil.Get her probiotics pills and give her flax seed oil and fish oil every day- these 2 oils contain the essential ingredients that our body uses to build our gastric track membranes.Make sure she eats lots of tubers, roots, cabbage and its family, papaya, squashes, broccoli, carrots, and cucumbers. They will pick any impurities in her track.Get creative with your blender.Rice and Soy drinks are extremely acid on the stomach.Check for alkaline foods, doctors don't understand the acid-alkaline diet-it is very easy to follow- just don't give too many acid forming foods to the body at once.http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html All really good info, the only thing I would add is to have your daughter eat more RAW foods.
    Phillip 5 Replies
    • January 6, 2007
    • 08:27 PM
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  • One possibility could be celiac disease. Is she small for her age? Celiacs don't have to be, but it is very common. Celiac is an autoimmune reaction to wheat, barley and rye. For more info go to www.gluten.net and click on health info. A simple blood test for antibodies is the first step to dx. and IBS is a common misdiagnosis for Celiac.Good luck!I did some research on this disease. And my daughter seems to have many of the symptoms except for stunted growth and fatigue. Her primary doctor said she may have IBS and gave her some meds that didn't work. I took her to a GI doctor he said lactose intolorant. When researching this disease I read that it is often misdiagosed as IBS like you said. I also read that with this disease you may become lactose intolorant! So I think I may bring this up to her doctor and ask if he will have her tested. Thank you for bringing this disease to my attention! You may have just saved my baby girl from many more months of pain...
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 7, 2007
    • 01:56 AM
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  • I to have a 7 year old girl and I'm feeling your pain. I don't know why I got to your story but I got there. I would like to share with you my story. My little girl has been sick for a long time. Very shy but super smart!!! She has been through all sort of test and we still know nothing. She's missed most of first grade because of this illness. She had a perforated appendix over xmas break. We were almost happy to finally have a reason to explain the years of pain she went through. After the surgery, still pain, cramps, vommiting, and naussea!!!!!What are we supposed to do. We've still gotten no answer for why our baby is in pain. Everyone has a little advise but no one can take this pain away. A lot of people think she may be even faking to get attention. Or maybe, she has an emotional problem. I don't know what to do. Maybe we can keep in touch and compare cases. I know in my heart that she is hurting. I don't know what to do.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 19, 2007
    • 02:57 AM
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  • I have a 10 year old with similar symtoms. They have sais it is just 5th grade stress and when he doesn't want to do something on comes the severs stomach cramping and diarrhea. He is very active and loves school and these things happen ongoing AND when he want s to do something like go to a friends. This is daily and ongoing. I am currently reseaching IBS. I am looking at alternative med, but really don't know where to start. I know he is in agony most of the time (headaches have begun as well) and his personality is changing due to this. I feel helpless to help him. We have had upper and lower GI, but it was normal. I don't know where to go. I stay up late and get on the computer. Pass on anything you hear and I will too. THis is my only line of support right now.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 19, 2007
    • 03:17 AM
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  • I have a 10 year old with similar symtoms. They have sais it is just 5th grade stress and when he doesn't want to do something on comes the severs stomach cramping and diarrhea. He is very active and loves school and these things happen ongoing AND when he want s to do something like go to a friends. This is daily and ongoing. I am currently reseaching IBS. I am looking at alternative med, but really don't know where to start. I know he is in agony most of the time (headaches have begun as well) and his personality is changing due to this. I feel helpless to help him. We have had upper and lower GI, but it was normal. I don't know where to go. I stay up late and get on the computer. Pass on anything you hear and I will too. THis is my only line of support right now.I just found thishttp://www.newfrontier.com/2/heal396.htmhttp://www.avenaoriginals.com/library/article_display.asp?a=Bowel_ToxemiaI hope it helps.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 19, 2007
    • 03:50 AM
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  • I to have a 7 year old girl and I'm feeling your pain. I don't know why I got to your story but I got there. I would like to share with you my story. My little girl has been sick for a long time. Very shy but super smart!!! She has been through all sort of test and we still know nothing. She's missed most of first grade because of this illness. She had a perforated appendix over xmas break. We were almost happy to finally have a reason to explain the years of pain she went through. After the surgery, still pain, cramps, vommiting, and naussea!!!!!What are we supposed to do. We've still gotten no answer for why our baby is in pain. Everyone has a little advise but no one can take this pain away. A lot of people think she may be even faking to get attention. Or maybe, she has an emotional problem. I don't know what to do. Maybe we can keep in touch and compare cases. I know in my heart that she is hurting. I don't know what to do.When all the stomach problems started with my daughter I thought she may be faking. I even went to her school and had a meeting with her teacher. I wanted to know if there was something going on at school that would cause her to 'fake' a stomach ache so she could stay home. Her teacher told me nothing at all she got along great with all the kids and was a wonderful student. Then I noticed it wasn't just happening on school days but also the weekends and when she was playing with her cousins. Two weeks ago we had an upper GI done. The results were normal. Her doctor did put her on Prevacid for the heartburn that that has helped so much. Then this week she had an ultrasound of her gallbladder and blood work (cbc and cmp) the ultrasound was normal. I called the doctors office today to see if they have got the results of the bloodwork. They said yes the nurse was looking it over and would need to consult with the doctor and they would call me back. Well they never did so I guess I'll have to wait till Monday before I find out the results.I hope we can find answers for our little girls and get them feeling better. It breaks my heart when my little girl crys herself to sleep at night and I can't do anything for her..
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • Have you had blood tests done to check everything? If something is not normal that can lead you in the right direction. Maybe a gland problem.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • I have a 10 year old with similar symtoms. They have sais it is just 5th grade stress and when he doesn't want to do something on comes the severs stomach cramping and diarrhea. He is very active and loves school and these things happen ongoing AND when he want s to do something like go to a friends. This is daily and ongoing. I am currently reseaching IBS. I am looking at alternative med, but really don't know where to start. I know he is in agony most of the time (headaches have begun as well) and his personality is changing due to this. I feel helpless to help him. We have had upper and lower GI, but it was normal. I don't know where to go. I stay up late and get on the computer. Pass on anything you hear and I will too. THis is my only line of support right now.How often does your son get headaches? The reason I ask is because over the last few weeks my daughter has also started to complain of headaches... Not very often maybe once ever 2 or 3 days. I just find it odd that your son and my daughter have the same symptoms and both have just recently begun to get headaches. I'm thinking about taking my daughter and getting a 3rd opinion. I'm also going to ask her doctor about the possibility of Celiac disease (although I can't find a genetic link in the family, but my husbands dad was adopted)Crohn's disease also causes some of the symptoms our children are suffering from. I will be happy to share any information I find.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • How often does your son get headaches? The reason I ask is because over the last few weeks my daughter has also started to complain of headaches... Not very often maybe once ever 2 or 3 days. I just find it odd that your son and my daughter have the same symptoms and both have just recently begun to get headaches. I'm thinking about taking my daughter and getting a 3rd opinion. I'm also going to ask her doctor about the possibility of Celiac disease (although I can't find a genetic link in the family, but my husbands dad was adopted)Crohn's disease also causes some of the symptoms our children are suffering from. I will be happy to share any information I find.Headache is a very common symptom of intestinal toxemia. Check to see if the child has healthy vowel movements regularly (at least once a day) and that he/she drinks enough water. Look for signs of dehydration.Partial diarrhea / constipation or stools in particles are signs of toxemia.If he/she is always hungry and need to snack on food all the time or eat something sweet it might mean that there is a problem with absorption.Best.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • Have you had blood tests done to check everything? If something is not normal that can lead you in the right direction. Maybe a gland problem.Yes we had blood test done this week, CBC and CMP... I'm still waiting for the results...
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • Headache is a very common symptom of intestinal toxemia. Check to see if the child has healthy vowel movements regularly (at least once a day) and that he/she drinks enough water. Look for signs of dehydration.Partial diarrhea / constipation or stools in particles are signs of toxemia.If he/she is always hungry and need to snack on food all the time or eat something sweet it might mean that there is a problem with absorption.Best.Her bowel movement is usually always diarrhea sometimes several times a day. I would say about 25% of the time after having a bowel movement it relieves her stomach ache. Sometimes it takes her 15-20 minutes to use the bathroom the whole time complaining that her stomach hurts.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • Her bowel movement is usually always diarrhea sometimes several times a day. I would say about 25% of the time after having a bowel movement it relieves her stomach ache. Sometimes it takes her 15-20 minutes to use the bathroom the whole time complaining that her stomach hurts.Please give her probiotics. She needs to build up some intestinal flora.Do not feed her milk, wheat, sugar, processed food. Not even bottled juice.These products are usually to blame for this condition.Make sure she eats 80% of her food raw and no more than 27 grams of protein per day.I hope this helphttp://www.beyondhealth.com/articles.htm
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 20, 2007
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  • It was difficult to find you again. I'm the one that mailed you back about my 7 year old and similar condition as your child. I wondered if we could contact via e-mail instead of openly speaking in this site??? Anyway, we went Thursday for an upper GI with a small bowel follow through. I am waiting for the results. If you are the same one that said you had blood work done then I have something to tell you. I thought my child was hypoglacemic and took her several times for cbc. Always we were told that she is normal. After her Appendectomy the Surgeon was shocked we didn't find out about her infection Months if not years earlier. I was aggressive about getting answers and I did everyhting I could. I changed peds 4 times and I had so many tests taken. She had headaches for as long as the stomach problems. I had a cat scan and all seemed to be normal. We even took her for a qv scan and no abnormalities were there. Finally we took her to have an eye visit with an opthomolgist and foung out she had an astigmatism. I think the headache was caused by eye strain. We got her some glasses and alot of the headaches have gone away. I don't know if that would be helpful to explore. Anyway, to make a long story short, if she's not home from school sick, I'm pulling her out for some test. The hospital is over an hour away and I have been going back and forth a few times each week looking for answers. What do you think? this is my oldest child of three. I am busy in ways my friends can not begin to understand. This is why I have turned to strangers for help, support, and advise!!!!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 21, 2007
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  • It was difficult to find you again. I'm the one that mailed you back about my 7 year old and similar condition as your child. I wondered if we could contact via e-mail instead of openly speaking in this site??? Anyway, we went Thursday for an upper GI with a small bowel follow through. I am waiting for the results. If you are the same one that said you had blood work done then I have something to tell you. I thought my child was hypoglacemic and took her several times for cbc. Always we were told that she is normal. After her Appendectomy the Surgeon was shocked we didn't find out about her infection Months if not years earlier. I was aggressive about getting answers and I did everyhting I could. I changed peds 4 times and I had so many tests taken. She had headaches for as long as the stomach problems. I had a cat scan and all seemed to be normal. We even took her for a qv scan and no abnormalities were there. Finally we took her to have an eye visit with an opthomolgist and foung out she had an astigmatism. I think the headache was caused by eye strain. We got her some glasses and alot of the headaches have gone away. I don't know if that would be helpful to explore. Anyway, to make a long story short, if she's not home from school sick, I'm pulling her out for some test. The hospital is over an hour away and I have been going back and forth a few times each week looking for answers. What do you think? this is my oldest child of three. I am busy in ways my friends can not begin to understand. This is why I have turned to strangers for help, support, and advise!!!!I would love to chat thru email... My email address is dawnwilson22@hotmail.com Her Doctor's office called me yesterday to let me know her blood work was all normal... The nurse told me she would talk to the doctor Monday and see what he wants to do next. I am thinking about taking her to another GI doctor. I love her regular doctor but I think she really needs to see another specialist.My daughter also has an astigmatism that was diagnosed when she was 2. Glasses have helped so much.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 22, 2007
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  • Hello to you, I just cam across this web site looking for answers myself. My 10 year old daughter has been having stomach aches for the past 2 years. She has been admitted to the hospital 2 x for dehydration from throwing up and diarehea, last admission was may 06. I took her to a ped. gastro doctor he immediately wanted to test for Chrones he scheduled her for a colonoscopy & endoscopy the very next day...We were relieved to find out everything was normal he said she had a spastic colon...well I thought that would given her peace of mind and the aches would stop but they didn't....We called the gastro back and he put her on antibiotic called Flagyl (used for bad bacteria in the stomach) 90 day antibiotic. We took it the stomach aches eased up but occurred sometimes now they are back. She very active and very healthy. She ahs a great appetite. Plays with friends very active in soccer etc. Well New years Eve she had a nother episode of throwing up all night and diarrarea ( I was ready to head to the hospital) we didn't though, we made it through the night with out her dehydrating. I know this was a virus because I got it. In the past I have never gotten sick from her. So the stomach aches come on very quickly we will be out shopping or other things and suddenly her stomach begins hurting and we have to leave to go home (that's all she wants) and we are usually up very, very late sitting on the toilet with her stomach cramping all night (hoping she doesn't begin throwing up). I don't know what to do, I used to think it was in her mind or nervous but these are very real and painful for her. She has been tested for celiac it was negative. I have often wondered about her appendix but the doctors say no. I pray so hard for her tummy to be relieved from the pain. I don't where to turn or what to do. I just saw this message board and wanted to share my thoughts. Any advice would be grateful!!!Thanks Rgrogg
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 28, 2007
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