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Definition of Endometriosis

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • January 29, 2007
  • 01:20 AM

I posted this in the first thread on the site and now here too.

Definition of Endometriosis !
Too much estrogen compared to progesterone.

I am posting this due to seeing that so many seem to have been told that "we don't know what endometriosis really is."

Cycling means going through ongoing changes. And to be healthy, those changes should be in a specific pattern. So much estrogen compared to progesterone - and in the cycle that is in a constantly changing pattern.

Estrogen goes up at a certain time to make cells mature and eggs be ready for possible fertilization. After the egg matures and can thus be possibly fertilized, the estrogens work is done for a while. It should then go down.

As it goes down, progesterone should be going up because the egg may get fertilized. So the progesterone should stay up for a few days to see if the egg gets fertilized. If it does, then the progesterone amounts should stay up. If it does not get fertilized, the progesterone levels should go down.

Sort of like a waltz, with the amounts of the hormones interacting and changing amounts at different times. Too much estrogen causes too much tissue to grow, leading to increased pain and bleeding before and during the period.

The only way I am aware of to check where the hormones are throughout the entire month is by using a saliva test. You get a kit, take a saliva test every three days throughout your period, and send those saved samples (all labeled correctly and stored in the refrigerator) to the lab. What comes back is a graphic to show the all important pattern. There you can see what goes where and when. And see if you have too much estrogen in parts of the cycle where it should have actually come down. Too much estrogen compared to progesterone is what causes increased pain and bleeding because the "estrogen dominance" causes too many cells to grow for too long.

Using hormone replacement therapy - "natural" or unnatural does not and cannot help the organs heal to then produce the right amounts. Some types of treatment can help the organs heal - and is some cases totally heal - so the balance through the cycle is correct and then the endometriosis is greatly reduced or gone. Most MDs are very unaware of this and may even say it can't be done. I don't know why they don't explore more. I have always considered it part of my job as a natural health doc.

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  • :mad: RALPH, YOU ARE WAYYYYY OFF THE MARK WITH YOUR SO-CALLED "DEFINITION" OF ENDOMETRIOSIS!!! ALL, PLEASE DISREGARD HIS POST - IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE!!! Here is the definition of endometriosis that can be found in most encyclopedias (I copied it from medicinenet.com): Endometriosis is the growth of cells similar to those that form the inside of the uterus (endometrial cells), but in a location outside of the uterus. Endometrial cells are the same cells that are shed each month during menstruation. The cells of endometriosis attach themselves to tissue outside the uterus and are called endometriosis implants. The implants are most commonly found on the ovaries, the Fallopian tubes, outer surfaces of the uterus or intestines, and on the surface lining of the pelvic cavity. They can also be found in the vagina, cervix, and bladder, although less commonly than other locations in the pelvis. Rarely, endometriosis implants can occur outside the pelvis, on the liver, in old surgery scars, and even in or around the lung or brain. Endometrial implants are generally benign (not cancerous).
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  • EXCELLENT DEFINITION endo feeds off our monthly cycle ladies, we bleed on the inside aswell as the outsideadhesive tissue forms sticking all our bits down causing us ladies lots of pain and sufferingmay.Cause as it has me infertility
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  • Very apparently I missed the "correction" that was posted after my definition. But the encyclopedia is an ages old definition and don't most docs say they do not know why and about the only option given is a drug or to cut some of your parts out. The encyclopedia definition is older than ancient. So to my "correctors": how many patients do you see weekly ?How long have you actually worked with patients with this condition ? I have studied and applied natural assessment and treatment for many years. I began because so many female patients complained that their MDs were giving them no help and telling them since their tests were normal it must be in their heads. The docs I have studied with are at the top of the heap in natural health care and are focused on getting results. For years, unfortunately, traditional docs have only focused on estrogen and have ignored progesterone in the cycle. This is not opinion on the ongoing interactions of estrogen and progesterone, it is reality. MDs are very good with serious injuries and some emergency care, but are pretty poor with most other health concerns. A mentor of mine said he would debate any MD anywhere, and so would I. Not for my ego, but to truly educate the public. Sorry that facts upset some so much. Reality trumps theory every time.
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  • And my definition is not a description of endo. Sorry so much. I posted the causes that lead to endo and also posted about how to deal with the problem. I guess I got confused cause I wanted to help people get results.
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  • What about the symptons can appear for Endo?Maybe like is it possible that the ladies who suffering from endo will be in pain on their uterus or abdomen or even bladder or their anus?
    PersonInPain 1 Replies
    • October 5, 2007
    • 00:09 AM
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