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Concussion - Are these Symptoms Normal?

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  • Posted By: onefromnone
  • October 26, 2006
  • 08:37 PM

Hi- I suffered a concussion during an assault which occured 8 days ago, I had a CT scan which came back as "normal"... I was knocked unconcious, and woke up with a cut over my left eye. I think I may have been hit with either a fist or a pool stick....

The symptom I am having that is concerning me is a numbness on my upper left jaw/teeth area (feels like got a shot of novacaine after the dentist)... what I want to know is this normal after a concussion, or being hit, and should it go away? Also, I still feel groggy, not 100% clear like it's hard to concentrate... It's giving me alot of anxiety as well... Thanks to anyone with some experience here that could offer advice....

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  • Hey take it from me who has suffered numerous concussions. Yes your feelings are normal. Well not so sure about your jaw feelings that's probly just bruising. You really need to rest it out. Do not do anything pyhsical. Your feelings may last for days, weeks or months depending on how hard you were hit. It is VERY important to not overdue things. No straining or stress, and for goodness sakes, don't hit your head again for awhile. You do not want to get another concussion until your brain totally heals. Well you don't want to get a concussion ever again really. I get concussions from just bending over now. It sucks. So please take care of yourself until you heal. If after six months and you still feel these symptoms, go back and tell the doctor. Even if the cat scan comes back normal, that does not mean anything! Hi- I suffered a concussion during an assault which occured 8 days ago, I had a CT scan which came back as "normal"... I was knocked unconcious, and woke up with a cut over my left eye. I think I may have been hit with either a fist or a pool stick.... The symptom I am having that is concerning me is a numbness on my upper left jaw/teeth area (feels like got a shot of novacaine after the dentist)... what I want to know is this normal after a concussion, or being hit, and should it go away? Also, I still feel groggy, not 100% clear like it's hard to concentrate... It's giving me alot of anxiety as well... Thanks to anyone with some experience here that could offer advice.... Thanks!
    horsecrazy1 8 Replies
    • October 27, 2006
    • 02:02 PM
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  • Thanks for the reply. So, the grogginess feelis like a "buzz" and the general headache I have feels like light pressure.... Just don't feel 100% clear. Sort of out of it... so, you are saying that this goes away? It's now been 8 days since sustaining the injury.... how gradual of a process is it, a few weeks you think? How did you get your concussions? Also I get anxiety at night, which kind of sucks, but I can manage with that- just want my head to clear and feel like myself again!Thanks again,Jason
    onefromnone 1 Replies
    • October 27, 2006
    • 05:10 PM
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  • Well you could be in for a bit of a long haul. It could take up to 6 months for you to be yourself again. The anxiety is pretty normal, you bruised your brain. Sleep will be disrupted as well. Don't worry, everything you are feeling is normal for a concussion. You can read my story on the neurological threads under take it from me. It explains what happend to me. I am a bit of a advocate for helmets and wife abuse now. As for me, my brain has sustained too much damage for me to ever get better, I have to just use risk managment now. If you are not back to yourself after 6 months you should really go back to your doctor. I am pretty sure you will be just fine. good luck!
    horsecrazy1 8 Replies
    • October 28, 2006
    • 04:06 PM
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  • Sorry to hear your concerns and injury... first and foremost, be persistant with your doctor if your symptoms do not resolve in a couple few weeks. Your symtoms can be considered normal, but you'll want to note the lenght of time, as to whether it is temporary normal, or of more permanent normal. Concussions do take time, but be aware of what is called a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)...when a concussion does not resolve itself, and YES you can have a normal MRI... TBI's can be mild, moderate or severe... and you CAN LOOK fine. I say this as a caution only - but I was drawn to your note because I understood the "FOG" you described, personally. I was in a nasty car accident 3.5 yrs ago. I too was knocked out, experienced headaches that persisted even lo-grade long after the initial days of unbelievable pain, as well as dizziness, a "fog" that never cleared... felt as though I had taken 20 SAT exams every day, just too tired to think. I had other disturbances too, incl memory, sleep, speech, ringing in my ears, visual scan probs, visual blurriness that would come and go, and balance issues...Plus not knowing what was wrong def made me anxious, as did not knowing what to expect of myself was very upsetting. Most doctors just shrugged.... it was sad. As sad as it was to eventually learn the permanent nature of it in my case, which took a year to get a diagnosis. This, even though I was told I had a closed head injury and/or concussion and severe whip lash the day of the accident... AND I reported my symptoms to EVERY doctor I saw for that first year, with little help... and a lot of problems I had no answer for... incl just knowing I was not right... and THAT FOG... aarrrgh... I never felt totally awake. It is a BAD feeling...and worse when no one can tell you what is wrong! Granted, I sustained multiple traumas in one accident, but there are VARYING degrees and symptoms one can get from a head injury. Only your doctor can tell you for sure, as well as time as to whether you will exp a full recovery or have any lasting effects. And in the meantime, besides looking in to it with your doc should your symptoms persist... I might also suggest you, or others with head traumas to please visit the national organization for TBI, The Brain Injury Association of America, (BIAA), online for more information regarding your potential situation. (Most states have chapters as well).OR, looking in to it may reassure you that your situation is not the TBI scenario described, and your concussion is indeed temporary.However, if you find it IS the case, your doctor can find different meds that will help you cope with the new physiology of your brain, incl the anxiety..but even some meds that help with the "fog," to get your brain awake when it is supposed to be awake. There are also neuro-rehab facilities (see most major hospitals for brain trauma rehab and their outpatient facilities, that may sound extreme, but even mild changes in one's brain can cause a greater problem to the whole body... being that it is the brain you are talking about... it affects the whole dramatically. But they have a whole arsenel of techniques and strategies to help one cope with the newly different brain function... To help even those considered to be the walking wounded. This is not to sound dire, but it is something to consider if you aren't feeling like yourself after a few months anyway, cause it may not be just "all in your head," it may well indeed be your head - and many docs just aren't up to speed with a lot of the info on it, so stick with it til you find your answer and potential help that is really out there. Take care and I wish you well... and at the very least I hope that annoying FOG lifts for you soon!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • November 8, 2006
    • 07:53 AM
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  • As sad as it was to eventually learn the permanent nature of it in my case, which took a year to get a diagnosis.Hey, Im going through something similar after having a concussion about three/four months ago. What was your diagnosis?
    rsixer 1 Replies
    • October 18, 2007
    • 01:05 PM
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  • Hi RSIXER.I'm sorry to hear of your problems.It's terribly frustrating, I know. My diagnosis is that I unfortunatley am about one of the unlucky less than 10% who do not recover from a head trauma. Some call it post-concussion syndrome, others and most now call it TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURIES. And mine is permanent in nature. It was confirmed this last January with a NUCLEAR BRAIN SPECT SCAN... it's a dye and scan test for your brain. ONe can have a TBI with little effect of this, but in my situation they can see mild to moderate profusion defects. Means the dype does not travel through certain area that have died off post accident. My current doctor decribed to me it was the spinning nature of the brain inside my skull, all these little feeder blood vessles got broken, so the blood supply continues to feed the brain in those areas and they essentially die off. (Like how you pull a grape off a stem, with a twist... it breaks it)... Our brains are more resilient with the stright back and forth hits, like a spring... but the rotatation for me in my auto wreck was too much, besides the impacts. HOWEVER, The brain does an AMAZING job of re-wiring itself when this happens, but then of course think of it like DETOURS when driving, you can stil get where you were going... BUT requiring more GAS do take the detour... so then chronic fatigue it enevitable and hte most lasting symptom, by varying degrees I am told for folks suffereing with permanent head injuries. --It's been 4.5 years now, and with medication and a session in neuro-rehab I am doing better than I was initially, and I TRIED to return to work...But as of 2.5 yrs post accident I no longer work and no longer drive. Not that hit my head and got stupid or anything, but the fatigue that is overwhelming when I do too much of anything that requires my brain, it just drains...DRIVING requires a tremendous amt of decision making, stuff we don't know our brains are even doing. That is why I tried to drive (after a few months of initial trauma) I found I could drive for like 5 or 10 min, but then all these disorienting symptoms would kick in... I would pull over and have to rest if more than 10 minutes. I KNEW something was terribly wrong. I stayed PERSISTENT and it took until a YEAR as I said before, until a doctor finally put it all together. AND he managed to figure it out without requiring a cscan to prove it, as so many are dependant on these days. But TBI's will not show up on traditional scans and xrays... it's a FUNCTIONING problem of the brain (well - as long as there is not a hemotoma or clot they need to fix sugically). But even after all this time, therapy and medication to help my brain be awake during the day, and then meds to help it sleep, (I have a sleep diesorder from this trauma too)...But even so, even with managing it -- I have to be ccreful to pick and shose activities, like spending pennies out of my brain bank... as I tell my kids. I have a short supply, my brain is there, and I KNOW things, but it can all change if I over-stimulate it, stress it... etc... all the symptoms can and usually kick in until I rest again. It makes scheduling things very difficult. Hence losing the job situation... I hated being put out on disability... I am a person with 6 yrs of college and had a profitable and satifying career as an art director, desginer and photographer... But it is what it is FOR ME... so I still see the neruro-psych approx monthy, the psych testing supports the phsical exams as well helping me "cope" with a new brain after being pretty used to the brain I had for 40 yrs! Luckily I have a very supportive family, and I am persistent.... BUT at your stage, what I describe MAY NOT be your FATE... It can take many months, up to 6 they say to recover from a head injust and the symptoms... It was not til the year point they said... OK... this helps us diagnos this TBI trifecta I sustained in 2003... that is why I say BE AWARE - BE PERSISTENT - AND MOSTLY, BE PATIENT! I've had two other friends in the last years post auto accident complain of symptoms like I started with, and continue to have to manage. AND knowing my outcome they were concerned... but they had a better outcome. So although they suffered 3-6 months... they did fully recover as most do. So it's impt to be patient, but if after say 6 months you still are experiencing problems that just don't seem RIGHT with your concentration, etc... SEE YOUR DOCTOR... and as I said, MRI's are only good for blood clots types of problems... If your have persistent prob after 4-6 mos, then likey you need to get looked at for the functioning of your brain. Not that it didn't heal, but it maybe didn't heal as efficiently as it could have. I started my neuro rehab a YEAR AFTER my wreck... and it helped TREMDOUSLY... getting better functioning of my brain, re-routing the wiring more efficiently and then too leaning ways to COPE with it too... so it eventually feels more normal. BUT -- if you have persistent bad head aches... or getting worse, you def should see your MD and let them guide you for your needs... I;ve heard that sometimes after a head trauma hemotomas can develop time... not to say that is what has happened... but I wouldn't be patient if your symptoms are SEVERE with anything... But either way, you should keep your doctor aware of any symtoms that have not cleared. If it is not a serious med emergency, but a head injury that does not heal... there is help out there... HONEST. MOST doctors are veryout of the loop with this tyoe of injury, cause one can LOOK OK... but not function right. I was lucky to find a group (via my nurse case manager for work comp, it was an auto/work accient... MESS with insurance!!) -- But the group she hooked me up with once the vertigo improved... (had vestibular therapy too... inner ear balance gyro scope jangled too).... So once I could get rides a little further from home (a yr), the group specialized in head injuries... traumatic brain injuries... of VARYING degrees of severity... but they CAN HELP if that turns out to be your situaiton. Again, please see the TBI of America for more information... BIAA - Brain INjury Association of America... You can find more info there and likely suggestions on medical help for this situaiton in your area.... my state is BIAF (Brain Injury Assoc of Florida) for the state chapter. I do understand that many of our troops are returing with this type of TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY -- so it is getting more "press" and research. And hopefully more doctors and hospitals will get up to date with it so that so many don't have to suffer wondering what is wrong after they look like should have healed. My best to you, I hope something here has helped.As I always say, even though I had something bad happen to me, if I can help anyone avoid pitfall or give hope or info to anyone in a similar situation, than that is a good thing for me. As a side note... I have also ONLY THIS YEAR... learned that I have a brachial plexus injury... the nerves at side of neck going out to shouder... But it took 4 years to figure out why the side of my neck was still swelling... and then the neck would spasm... It is damage to the cranial spinal accessory nerve... I am told it healed as much as it would after 2 years... something about the length of nerve. But there is nothing that can be done for it either.. Other than to try an exercise my arm as much as I can, (post the shoulder surgery I needed too from the accident)... but I have to use it so it does not atrophy... much like my brain now. Again... my best to you. -- BUT...Please seek medical attention for your particular case.EVERY BODY is different.My writing is only to help get info out there... because a brain injury is a tough place to be... with little answers and many frustrations UNTIL it is diagnosed by a doctor whom knows what to do with and for you. HANG IN THERE!!Sincerely, ljw
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • October 18, 2007
    • 10:51 PM
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  • Hey take it from me who has suffered numerous concussions. Yes your feelings are normal. Well not so sure about your jaw feelings that's probly just bruising. You really need to rest it out. Do not do anything pyhsical. Your feelings may last for days, weeks or months depending on how hard you were hit. It is VERY important to not overdue things. No straining or stress, and for goodness sakes, don't hit your head again for awhile. You do not want to get another concussion until your brain totally heals. Well you don't want to get a concussion ever again really. > It is impossible to sustain an actual concussion from bending over. You are having pain, a migraine, not a concussion. A concussion occurs upon a severe blow to the head - the trauma results from the impact. As far as the symptoms of the jaw, try googling TMJ, or T Mandibular Joint syndrome, you could have knocked your jaw out of alignment. There are some chiropractors that specialize in TMJ good luck.
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  • can you sleep if have a concussion...and can you take ibuprofen 600 mg?????
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 15, 2008
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