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Bone pain and tooth/cartilage changes caused by acidosis

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • December 3, 2006
  • 05:40 PM

I am trying to find out if my chronic bone pain, tooth erosion, and thinning of facial cartilage (nose, ears) is caused by a chronic acidosis, and how to get tested. When my symptoms first started I had very high ketones in my urine, but my blood wasn't tested for ketones. I don't have diabetes (blood sugar tests are always normal). I'm not bulemic or anorexic, but my doctors and dentists have tried to suggest that my tooth erosion is caused by an eating disorder (they don't say anything about the nose/ear cartilage). I am constantly told that my bone pain is muscle pain or fibromyalgia, but I don't have those symptoms (and a specialist agreed), and how would muscle pain affect the teeth and cartilage?

If anyone has experience with bone/acidosis disorders, please tell me how I can get diagnosed and get my doctors to take my symptoms seriously.

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  • Pretty unlikely a doctor would take you seriously as many dont recognise the problems of acidosis. The best people to check you out would be naturopaths. Find one that can check out your blood. Mine had a test kit to tell my blood type and so forth. I'm not sure how they check for acidity but they have different ways of finding heaps of theings.They also deal with chinese medicine which can cure practically everything or at least halt many diseases for further damage.Do you get heartburn and reflux? if so disolve a teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda in a glass of water to drink. This will neutralise the acidity in your stomach as well as in you blood.The naturopath will also be able to tell you the correct things to eat and what to avoid.I have a connective tissue disorder called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Type III. Many with EDS have your same symptoms. A visit to the site may be helpful. You probably dont have this syndrome, there are six types of it, but some other disorder (or just acidosis), but a read of the EDS types might put you onto some other leads regarding your health if any of the types sound familiar. www.ehlers-danlos.org. All the best.Agape,searchingsam.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 3, 2006
    • 10:07 PM
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  • Are you the same poster from the Dental conditions forum, Enamel changes to teeth? http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?t=5404 If you are I posted a reply to you there. If you aren't... and even if you are.... I suppose it could be acidosis. If it is acidosis, changes in your diet can help. And baking soda can reverse it. Have you checked around the curezone.com? There are forums there about this. You might consider getting your vitamin D levels tested if you haven't already. Vitamin D deficiency can cause all kinds of symptoms that you wouldn't necessarily equate to the vitamin. I have read that nearly 40% of Fibromyalgia diagnosis are MISdiagnosis and are actually Vitamin D deficiency. I have tons of symptoms, and the only one that I would have thought could be related to vitamin D, is my teeth were losing enamel. I have had doctors try and say I am depressed and try to get me to take anti-depressants. But I am not depressed. And I finally found out the cause of my symptoms... vitamin D deficiency. No anti-depressant would have fixed that. It may have masked the symptoms until my bones and teeth melted away, but it would not have raised my D levels up to normal.... Please, if you have not had your levels tested, please do that ASAP. Vit D deficiency left untreated can cause the parathyroid to do it's job and raise your calcium levels (creating secondary hyperparathyroidism). It does that by robbing your bones of calcium. That would cause bone loss and bone pain. If it raises your calcium levels too high, you could get hypercalcemia, and the complications from that. And after that the list grows, and becomes life threatening. So, really, please have your D levels checked if it has not already been done. You'll need to ask for the 25-hydroxy vitamin D test. Also, in my study of this, upon learning of my own deficiency... I learned that other things can cause these symptoms too. Too MUCH vitamin D can cause Vit D toxicity and cause the same symptoms! Hyperparathyroidism (not caused from D deficiency) also can cause the symptoms you describe. There are many other things as well. Searchinsam is correct. You should seek counsel with a naturopath. Or a homeopath. Any doctor that recognizes nutrition as medicine and prevention. You definitely have an imbalance of some kind. As for acidosis.... I don't know much about that. But even that would be caused by nutritional imbalance. This is several months after your post. I hope you have found some answers by now. But if you haven't... please consider what I have said. And check out the curezone if you haven't already. HTH
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  • Yes - I’m the same person. Do you know why your vitamin D was low? My vitamin D tests were always normal when taken, but I did have high calcium. I have also been told that I was depressed, anxious, or anorexic/bulimic, none of which are true. I’m still trying to get this diagnosed and will start looking into alternative methods of testing. If you ever get a definitive answer for your enamel loss, please post what you find.
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  • I am not sure why my Vitamin D level was so low. I am guessing because I avoided the sun like a plague. I won't know until my follow up if my doctor will want to test me for other possibilities. I don't think he will though unless I go hypercalcemic. Speaking of high calcium, how about your parathyroid? Has it been tested? Do you know what your Vit D level was last time it was checked? I ask because if it was on the low end of normal, it could be in the normal range but maybe too low for your body. We must remember that these ranges are not perfect, and not everyone's body is okay within them. For example, my B12 level. My test results page from the lab, says that while I am within the normal range, SOME people have symptoms of being deficient even at the level I fell into. So, my doctor is having me supplement that. So, maybe you are within "normal" range for your D level, but maybe it just isn't enough for YOUR body. As I said on the other thread, if you need any help finding a homeopath or need anything else, don't hesitate to send me an email. natrfrk@hotmail.com . And I definitely will post if I get a definitive answer on the cause of my enamel loss. But I think it is from the D deficiency. Now that I am supplementing that, time will tell!!! I wish you well, and I pray you will find an answer soon.
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  • Do you happen to be on an atkins type diet? My son is on the ketogenic diet and now has bone pain. He is in a constant state of ketosis at all times. We test urine and blood ketone both at home and I also can see if his urine is too acidic. He was too acidic for a long time, which has caused him lots of problems. Kidney stones and hypercalcieria to name a few. Recently we started on D drops and it was like he woke up. He is a mystery and I am trying to get his nephrologist to wake up and take him seriously!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 9, 2008
    • 02:13 PM
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  • It's been over a year since someone posted in this thread but I find it to be very interesting. I have various symptoms that started about 9 months ago. Prior to that time, I was getting occasional heartburn and chest pains and was told that I may have acid reflux. I didn't think too much of it b/c I changed my diet and several weeks later the heartburn and chest pain was gone.One day back in August, I ate some very hot, spicy food. I didn't drink much that day. I ended up experiencing a burning throat sensation, tightness in my throat, and tightness in my chest. I was told that it was probably due to acid reflux and given Prilosec. A couple of days later the acid reflux problems went away but then other things started happening. I experienced muscle spasms in my neck that were painful. The spasms went away but for about 1.5 months I had pain in my neck and pressure in my head. Eventually my neck pain subsided but then I started experiencing "burning mouth syndrome" where my tongue was sore and the back of my mouth would hurt. I went to the dentist and was told that I needed a mouthguard b/c I grind a lot. I had a couple of cavities but I ended up going to the dentist a few times after that and each time I was told I had new cavities. The dentist asked "what is going on with you?" I've had a total of about 8 fillings thus far and last time I went to the dentist (2 months ago) I was told I have yet another cavity. He said it's not really a cavity but something with the enamel that will probably result in decay if I don't take care of it.Aside from that, to this day I have joint pain, fatigue, mouth pain, pressure in head and eyes, occasional pain in my face and it goes on. I recently started getting "tremors" or what feels like internal vibrations/shakiness. I haven't been able to get a diagnosis but out of all the tests, exams, etc that were taken the only thing revealed has been that my Vitamin D level is quite low and it was suggested that I take a total of 2000IU per day.After reading this thread I'm starting to think that perhaps my symptoms really stem from a Vitamin D deficiency. When I experienced muscle spasms last year I took magnesium and that actually helped but I was told after tests that I didn't have a magnesium deficiency. I always think about how I was fine until that one day when I had acid reflux that started a snowball effect that has really effected my daily living.
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  • Such symptoms may be harmful to our dental and oral health so consulting a dentist for dental check up is a helpful idea.
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  • I got a good amount of sun and vitamin D3 until at 31 I moved to Canada in 1969.In Toronto we can not get enough D from October to March.Years latter found 13 cavities in one examination, solved with large doses of vitamin C.Latter enamel erosion cosmetic fix with bonding...Year 2000 had hip replacement painful osteoartrithis cartilage gone.Latter chest pain and shoulder pains treated as stomach reflux and muscle pull...Year 2005 found lung cancer, lobe removed and chemo, cancer returns, radiation, returns, more chemo but not cure. I am 71 now and new research tells me that the problem is lack of Vitamin D! Hispanics moving to USA from sunny countries get 40% more cancers. Vitamin D Prevents Cancer: Is It True? YES 1 of 2 people gets cancer. Taking minimum 2000 IU D3 + 1500 mg Calcium can save your life. Possible benefits up to 75% reduction of cancers and other diseases like diabetes, multiple sclerosis, falls, fractures, heart attacks and less pain! http://www.grassrootshealth.net/ read and watch new research videos=================================================================Many common cancers, such as cancers of the colon and prostate, display fascinating north–south gradients, with rates that increase systematically with increasing geographic latitude, and show an increased risk among African Americans (3). The increased risk with residence at northern latitudes and greater incidence and mortality in persons with dark pigmentation recall the descriptive epidemiology of rickets, the classic disease of vitamin D deficiency. These considerations led several epidemiologists, including Garland and Garland (4) for the colon in 1980, and Schwartz and Hulka (5) for the prostate in 1990, to propose that vitamin D deficiency increased the risk for these cancers. Similar claims later were made for cancers at other sites, e.g., breast, ovary, and pancreas, so that vitamin D has become a prime candidate for cancer prevention Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light Those trying to brand contaminants as the key factor behind cancer in the West are "looking for a bogeyman that doesn't exist," argues Reinhold Vieth, professor at the Department of Nutritional Sciences at the University of Toronto and one of the world's top vitamin D experts. Instead, he says, the critical factor "is more likely a lack of vitamin D."http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi71.html http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article756975.ece http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2008-jan.shtml http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=17218096
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