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6 Months - Rock Hard Occipital Lymph Node

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  • Posted By: Anonymous
  • February 15, 2008
  • 09:42 PM

I'm actually not sure whether this is a lymph node, or whether it is occipital for that matter, but after doing some research and asking around, it seems to be the case. It's right where the occipital lymph node actually is. It's rock hard and is buried deep in the back of my neck right under the hairline in line with the bottom of the ear.

It seems to have slowly grown in size, and I would have to guess 1"-1.5" in diameter, but it does not protrude from the neck, you can only feel it by palpation. I saw a doctor a couple weeks ago and all she said was an enlargement of my neck muscle, that's it. She tried feeling for 5 minutes be she couldn't find it. I'm just baffled by such a wrong diagnosis, I don't understand how you can't feel a hard-as-rock ball at least 1" in diameter in my neck?

Anyways, it was not caused by injury, I've had it for 6 months straight now, and it has slowly grown in size, and in time, it's getting more annoying. I find myself constantly rubbing and applying pressure to it, but nothing seems to help. I've seen 3 different massage therapists and a chiropractor and no luck so far. My last straw is a CRANIOSACRAL massage, but I can't even find anyone who does one.

I'm 20 years old, my diet is impeccable, I weight train and do plenty of cardio for at least 2 hours a day regularly, take a multi-vitamin, no drinking/smoking, etc. I'm in excellent shape.

I'm really desperate now, I don't know what to do. I am grateful for any advice. Thank you very much for any help!

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  • First, any lymph node that is swollen or enlarged for more than 4 weeks is a bit of a concern. Second, any *rock hard* lymph node should really be a concern. Rock hard, non painful lymph nodes is one symptom of Hodgkin's. I'd suggest seeing another doctor.
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  • Could you please let me know what happened with ur lump ?Were you dx? I have the same problem and some upper back and neck pain.An answer would be greatly appreciated.Thank you
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  • I would really like to know how this turns out. As the person above me has posted, I am dealing with something I believe to be similar, but it is causing me pain in my upper back, and neck as well. It makes me a bit lightheaded now and then and it feels like I need to 'hold' my head up even in normal positions. Please let me know how this turned out if possible.
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  • Hi,Do anybody of you have any conclusive result?I have the same problem: 1" node hard non-movable node located deep in the muscle pretty close to the spine right under hte hairline.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 3, 2009
    • 09:55 PM
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  • Hi,Do anybody of you have any conclusive result?I have the same problem: 1" node hard non-movable node located deep in the muscle pretty close to the spine right under hte hairline.I will be getting my results on this same lump, bad neck pain and also have upper back numbness on tuesday. I will post my results.
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    • November 5, 2009
    • 07:07 PM
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  • Hi,Do anybody of you have any conclusive result?I have the same problem: 1" node hard non-movable node located deep in the muscle pretty close to the spine right under hte hairline.IMS, have you received an answer as to what your lump is? I too just recently discovered a hard (bone like) lump deep in the back of my neck just below my hair line. I noticed it about a week ago when I was rubbing the back of my head and neck due to a headache. Just wondering what your outcome was. Thank you for your help!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • December 22, 2009
    • 02:12 AM
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  • I'm actually not sure whether this is a lymph node, or whether it is occipital for that matter, but after doing some research and asking around, it seems to be the case. It's right where the occipital lymph node actually is. It's rock hard and is buried deep in the back of my neck right under the hairline in line with the bottom of the ear.It seems to have slowly grown in size, and I would have to guess 1"-1.5" in diameter, but it does not protrude from the neck, you can only feel it by palpation. I saw a doctor a couple weeks ago and all she said was an enlargement of my neck muscle, that's it. She tried feeling for 5 minutes be she couldn't find it. I'm just baffled by such a wrong diagnosis, I don't understand how you can't feel a hard-as-rock ball at least 1" in diameter in my neck?Anyways, it was not caused by injury, I've had it for 6 months straight now, and it has slowly grown in size, and in time, it's getting more annoying. I find myself constantly rubbing and applying pressure to it, but nothing seems to help. I've seen 3 different massage therapists and a chiropractor and no luck so far. My last straw is a CRANIOSACRAL massage, but I can't even find anyone who does one.I'm 20 years old, my diet is impeccable, I weight train and do plenty of cardio for at least 2 hours a day regularly, take a multi-vitamin, no drinking/smoking, etc. I'm in excellent shape.I'm really desperate now, I don't know what to do. I am grateful for any advice. Thank you very much for any help! I went to the Dr. also. I explained that I has two large bumps on both sides of my neck and numerous swollen lymph nodes. Before she even examined me she DX me as having anxiety. I kind of "went off on her" How rude, she hadent even examined me. I was about to leave then decided to ask her to at least feel my neck. She said that she didnt feel anything. I was beyond Humiliated. My point is that some Dr. just dont have the patience or the Right touch , besides she had alredy DX me before she came in the room. even after i put her finger on the few that i have that are real hard, she dismissed them as to small. " well you obviousley couldnt feel the 2-3 cm ones so I thought I point out the ones that roll around and are hard to the touch" Crazy, Lazy Dr. !!!!
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • January 12, 2010
    • 00:40 AM
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  • I'm actually not sure whether this is a lymph node, or whether it is occipital for that matter, but after doing some research and asking around, it seems to be the case. It's right where the occipital lymph node actually is. It's rock hard and is buried deep in the back of my neck right under the hairline in line with the bottom of the ear.It seems to have slowly grown in size, and I would have to guess 1"-1.5" in diameter, but it does not protrude from the neck, you can only feel it by palpation. I saw a doctor a couple weeks ago and all she said was an enlargement of my neck muscle, that's it. She tried feeling for 5 minutes be she couldn't find it. I'm just baffled by such a wrong diagnosis, I don't understand how you can't feel a hard-as-rock ball at least 1" in diameter in my neck?Anyways, it was not caused by injury, I've had it for 6 months straight now, and it has slowly grown in size, and in time, it's getting more annoying. I find myself constantly rubbing and applying pressure to it, but nothing seems to help. I've seen 3 different massage therapists and a chiropractor and no luck so far. My last straw is a CRANIOSACRAL massage, but I can't even find anyone who does one.I'm 20 years old, my diet is impeccable, I weight train and do plenty of cardio for at least 2 hours a day regularly, take a multi-vitamin, no drinking/smoking, etc. I'm in excellent shape.I'm really desperate now, I don't know what to do. I am grateful for any advice. Thank you very much for any help!I've had something similar for years. It is on my left side at the base of my skull, right at the hairline. In 2005 I went to a doctor about it and he said it was something called a displaced lymph node. He said that sometimes lymph nodes just stay swollen and don't go down. Five years later it is still there. Hasn't gotten bigger or smaller and feels like bone.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • February 5, 2010
    • 10:09 PM
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  • i think it has to do with gluten intolerance.
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  • I was registered under IMSI went though neck MRI and spine MRI three months ago in connection with other condition. I still can feel a hard bump, but MRI didn't show any lymph node there (it showed other multiple shoddy lymph nodes in front of my neck). It didn't show anything extraordinary under hairline, so I worry any longer about whatever it is.Maybe it is a bone structure or a muscle node......
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  • I'm actually not sure whether this is a lymph node, or whether it is occipital for that matter, but after doing some research and asking around, it seems to be the case. It's right where the occipital lymph node actually is. It's rock hard and is buried deep in the back of my neck right under the hairline in line with the bottom of the ear.It seems to have slowly grown in size, and I would have to guess 1"-1.5" in diameter, but it does not protrude from the neck, you can only feel it by palpation. I saw a doctor a couple weeks ago and all she said was an enlargement of my neck muscle, that's it. She tried feeling for 5 minutes be she couldn't find it. I'm just baffled by such a wrong diagnosis, I don't understand how you can't feel a hard-as-rock ball at least 1" in diameter in my neck?Anyways, it was not caused by injury, I've had it for 6 months straight now, and it has slowly grown in size, and in time, it's getting more annoying. I find myself constantly rubbing and applying pressure to it, but nothing seems to help. I've seen 3 different massage therapists and a chiropractor and no luck so far. My last straw is a CRANIOSACRAL massage, but I can't even find anyone who does one.I'm 20 years old, my diet is impeccable, I weight train and do plenty of cardio for at least 2 hours a day regularly, take a multi-vitamin, no drinking/smoking, etc. I'm in excellent shape.I'm really desperate now, I don't know what to do. I am grateful for any advice. Thank you very much for any help!I have the same thing just 1cm away from the midline on the right at the back of my neck. The first time i had it checked at least 10 years ago the doctor said it was nothing and just gave me I think it was antibiotics (I'm not sure anymore) and the lump/ lymph (I don't remember the dx since i was just a kid then) eventually disappeared. But just 2 years ago (I never bothered to check it before that) I felt it again right around the time that it was getting really stressful at school. Then after that I would notice that it would swell again on times that I am stressed or have been sleep-deprived for days.It doesn't hurt but it kinda makes the right side of my neck feel heavier. And when I put pressure on it i feel something poking at the back of my throat.
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  • The lymphatic system apparently is not understood or appreciated well by the typical GP or internist. Scant attention is given to this important part of physiology in med schools, so it is understandable why the neglect occurs.I've had a rock hard occiptial ( behind-the-neck ) lymph node for 8 to 10 years. It's a bother since as a man I need to shave that area of the neck frequently below the hairline. In spite of its long tem presence, I've had no pain and the node has not seemed to grow appreciably. In a recent MRI scan of the my head from ear-level down to the nape of the neck, there was no indication of an abnormality such as a tumor. Still, the swollen node is bothersome, so I'm investigating the potential benefits of simple lymph drainage by self-manual massage, about which there are some texts that very superficially describe the technique. I understand SLD is not for everyone and that sometimes a swollen lymph node in the back of the neck ( occipital ) can indicate a serious medical condition. A major question is to whom do you go to get an expert but also an unbiased medical opinion about this condition when in general the medical profession is not knowledgeable about the subject. I hope I will remember to follow up on these remarks to explain what progress ( or lack thereof ) I've made.
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  • Get tested for HIV. Lymph nodes that are enlarged, non tender, firm and mobile especially in the Occipital indicates HIV. I would rule that out first.
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  • Get tested for HIV. Lymph nodes that are enlarged, non tender, firm and mobile especially in the Occipital indicates HIV. I would rule that out first.Has ANYONE gotten any other results on this??!! I am a 26 year old female with the SAME thing.. I have two almost symetrical lumps (swollen lymph nodes) on the back of my head, upper neck lower head area. They are rock hard and non moveable. I dont know how big they are because it seems like half of it is in my head and only the top sticks out. if that makes any sence. I had a CT scan of my head about a month ago and I didnt know about these at that time (not sure if they were there then, I just noticed them a couple of days ago). but the CT scan didnt show anything of a swollen lymph node....
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 22, 2010
    • 09:20 PM
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  • Has ANYONE gotten any other results on this??!! I am a 26 year old female with the SAME thing.. I have two almost symetrical lumps (swollen lymph nodes) on the back of my head, upper neck lower head area. They are rock hard and non moveable. I dont know how big they are because it seems like half of it is in my head and only the top sticks out. if that makes any sence. I had a CT scan of my head about a month ago and I didnt know about these at that time (not sure if they were there then, I just noticed them a couple of days ago). but the CT scan didnt show anything of a swollen lymph node....OK I just re-read this thread and my rock hard lymph nodes are not at my hairline or a little below. they are ABOVE my hairline. Pretty much straight with the middle of my ear.
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    • August 24, 2010
    • 08:21 PM
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  • Hello, I have the same thing. I went to the doctor for a lump on the back of my head (middle left part of head), and days later started having the worse headaches I have ever had, followed by a stiff neck. I have these almost 24 hours a day for the last 3 months. I have really bad "allergic shiners" around my eyes, but have no idea what Im allergic to. Pain killers dont take the pain away, either do the muscle relaxers, or the migraine meds he just put me on. I have had an xray, and CT Scan to rule out a tumor or mass. They keep telling me that its my skull, but why do I now have two lumps? The first one has almost doubled in size! I just got re-tested for Lyme Disease, as my first was negative. I am waiting the results from that, and other blood tests he's ordered. I cant take these chronic headaches any longer. I am so fatigue as well. Let me know if you find out anything more from your doctor.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • August 25, 2010
    • 08:48 PM
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  • Hi! I am so glad to have someone else to talk to about this! I have been going to the chiropractor and she keeps telling me that they are part of my skull as well and the reason they are more prominent on me is because of my neck or something.. she said "I promise I know what I am talking about, I am a bone dr." She even said she do you want me to take out my anatomy book? I said no.. but I think the next time I go in I will say yes because I have not been able to find ANYTHING saying that there should be any ball shaped protuberance on the back of your head except for a lymph nodes...I dont know... these certaintly havent been there before.. I wish I could have felt it earlier so I could tell if they were growing.. although I think they one on the right seems to be getting much bigger. Can you explain EXCATLY the place and what they feel like and everything?My other symptoms are:LOTS of floatersbad jaw and face painneck pain
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    • August 28, 2010
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  • I've had something similar for years. It is on my left side at the base of my skull, right at the hairline. In 2005 I went to a doctor about it and he said it was something called a displaced lymph node. He said that sometimes lymph nodes just stay swollen and don't go down. Five years later it is still there. Hasn't gotten bigger or smaller and feels like bone.I have the same problem and had an mri showed only slightly enlarged lymph node also has full lab work and ct scans due to prior Ca diagnoses and its nothing everything came back clear. It's just a node and it may stay that way but it doesn't mean its serious believe me I have had every test possible in the last 6 months I have a great Dr.
    Anonymous 42789 Replies
    • September 26, 2010
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  • I just went to the Dr. about this today. I am 27 and out of nowhere these painful lumps showed up. One is on the left side behind my ear/on neck in hair line at base of skull and the other one is on the right side behind my ear on the bone between ear and hair line. It's a pain in the butt trying to sleep because no matter which side i sleep on it's uncomfortable. I went to Dr. a week ago for UTI and I was taking Bactrim, so I was hoping it was some kind of reaction to it and not brain cancer or something. He said I was fine and it was lymph nodes, that my body was fighting something off. He said sometimes these nodes will swell when they are fighting off an infection. He said they would take a couple weeks to go down & if they didn't get better come back and we would try different antibiotic.
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  • I have had something very similar as well. I noticed it about 13 years ago, went to the Dr. and he said that it was a swollen lymph node and not to worry about it. Over the years I have had him recheck it and he consistantly says it's nothing to worry about. I am 30 years old now and it is still the same size but I am still worried about it. It is rock hard, and just doesn't seem like something to not be concerned about.I've had something similar for years. It is on my left side at the base of my skull, right at the hairline. In 2005 I went to a doctor about it and he said it was something called a displaced lymph node. He said that sometimes lymph nodes just stay swollen and don't go down. Five years later it is still there. Hasn't gotten bigger or smaller and feels like bone.
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