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raynaud's Phenomenon, arthritis link?

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  • Posted By: Altopia
  • May 9, 2011
  • 04:46 AM

Hi everyone, I have afew questions regarding my joint pain.

I'm 30yo female, living in Australia. About 8 months ago I was diagnosed with Barmah forest virus, and had also recently suffered Ross River virus, both mosquito born viruses that cause aching joints, fatigue and tiredness. I had two blood tests, the second to follow up the diagnosis and recovery I think. During that test my white cell count was elevated suggesting I also had an infection 'somewhere' in my body.

I have recovered very slowly, and was just starting to feel normal again, when the cold weather brought back my joint pains with avengence. I have had deep dull persistant aching in my knees and any physical activity (ie sweeping, or hanging out the washing) will cause other areas of my body to ache.

I was just looking online and discovered a post on raynauds Phenomenon, and realise that I have been suffering what I think is this for the past 15 years. It effects 2 of my toes on each foot when they get cold. They will go white then a weird yellow colour and will get this numb tingling feeling, almost as if they are not there anymore, and usually after an attack they will burn and feel itchy. I never knew what this was, just thought bad circulation?!
Well anyway I also read that it can be linked to arthritis, and am wondering if I should ask my Dr to be tested for arthritis, or if it's just these other viruses lingering in my system?

I did visit my Dr about a year and a half ago regarding an extremely sore thumb, she told me it's probably just from using it so much since I am a busy mother as arthritis is usually bilateral. My right knee grinds and clicks when I bend it, but both knees ache the same. Any advice would be greatly apreciated, thanks

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  • Hey,Yeah definitely ask your doctor about Raynauds and they will have a look at your toes and fingers. They can do a few tests. They usually look at your toes and feel if they're cold. I know they can look at the nail bed formation under a microscope but I don't think it usually comes to that. I've had raynauds since I was very little and the colour changes are between pallor and rubor. Sometimes your toes will go purple and blue. I think the other thing that is usually linked with people that have raynauds; which i've heard termed as "allergic to the cold" is where the opposite happens and you also have a reaction to sudden heat; so you redden very easily as well. You can see these changes in the nose, and ears as well as fingers and toes. The only thing you can do is keep that area warm (socks ect) otherwise if it is really bad they will put you on meds.As for the grinding joints I don't think that has much to do with Raynauds. Maybe a skeletal or arthritic problem. I don't know.Cheers,Jess^^
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  • Hey,Yeah definitely ask your doctor about Raynauds and they will have a look at your toes and fingers. They can do a few tests. They usually look at your toes and feel if they're cold. I know they can look at the nail bed formation under a microscope but I don't think it usually comes to that. I've had raynauds since I was very little and the colour changes are between pallor and rubor. Sometimes your toes will go purple and blue. I think the other thing that is usually linked with people that have raynauds; which i've heard termed as "allergic to the cold" is where the opposite happens and you also have a reaction to sudden heat; so you redden very easily as well. You can see these changes in the nose, and ears as well as fingers and toes. The only thing you can do is keep that area warm (socks ect) otherwise if it is really bad they will put you on meds.As for the grinding joints I don't think that has much to do with Raynauds. Maybe a skeletal or arthritic problem. I don't know.Cheers,Jess^^ I bit the bullet and visited my Dr. He said that I definately have an issue with the cold, he felt my hands and my feet, he said I was cold in general lol, he suspects it's Raynauds but also ordered me a myriad of tests including thyroid, heart/circulation, hormone levels, liver/kidney function, FBC and some others to check for auto immune issues, so hopefully I should get some answers pretty soon! Going back over my past blood tests he wasn't convinced my last bout of aches and pains was the Barmah forest virus (though at first it looked that way) as something in my results didn't stack up so he's ordered a rerun of that test also. I think he is being very thorough! I'm not sure if the two things are related at all, but its good to finally know whats been going on with my crazy toes :) I should know more about the aches and pains in afew days time as I have my follow up to get my results, seems alot of things can cause achy joints, not just arthritis, so I may have posted in the wrong forum, oops sorry guys :) Thanks for responding to my post
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  • Yes, they are related. I am 49 and have had RA 7 yrs. Embrel is great with insurance 5 grand without. Im without now. My R/A is severe I also have Raynauds,gout, fibromyalgia in for ruptured discs in my neck its all related my neurosurgeon said that my neck injury was the onset of everything else I was at a lucky enough when I found my doctor about my fingers turning white he said Raynauds. A min. Later my fingers did their thing. He nailed it. I cant see a new rheumatologist in Arizona for 3 months that's the waiting. They're behind my body is deforming rapidly in the pain is horrific bedridden 5 days out of 7 with anything like that quickly check with the doctor
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